Do pipes (water, etc.) freeze under crawl space?
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heater for a crawl space...hate frozen pipes
Comments (1)Okay, here is a better idea. Insulate the crawl space. Really, get spray foam and foam all the walls, sill plate, joist areas, etc. with an inch of foam. It will seal up the air leaks and insulate. With insulation and air sealing, I bet that your crawl space stays significantly above freezing. Here is a link that might be useful: DIY spray foam kits...See MoreInsulating PEX piping in crawl space?
Comments (3)Also insulate crawl space. We glued insulation to concrete walls. Wow its always nice in there. plus put down plastic on dirt floor. At least half way done in way. Unfortunately he threw in some left over gravel on dirt floor. wrong move.Slowly removing it and putting down plastic. Duh.... we were able to buy the foam board cheap from a guy in a local classified ad paper. Also have fiberglass between the studs. Unfortunately Hubby installed the vapor barrier years ago( when we were younger and less knowledgeable) toward dirt floor rather than up under flooring. Duh>>> We have copper so I used those foam tubes on them. Hubby has did some work in crawl space adding (water lines, running dsl lines, redoing some electical etc, adding electrical, running tv lines, etc) over the years and I need to go in there and put back up fiberglass etc Just my humble opinion for a long time home owner DIY er Jean...See Moreproper pipe insulation ( crawl space)
Comments (4)First of all, if the DWV(drain,waste & vent) piping is installed correctly there should be an adequate pitch to insure there is never any standing water in the pipes so freezing is basically a non-issue. The exceptions to this would be P-traps which may be below the sub floor such as under the bathtub, shower stall or laundry standpipe. In this case the P-traps will generally be well up in the joist bay and very near the underside of the sub floor. General purpose insulation can be installed in the stud bay on the underside of the trap but do not insulate the top of the trap. Keep the top area open so that residual heat from the living space above can come through the sub floor and maintain a minimal temperature in the joist bay in the proximity of the P-trap. Water supply lines are a whole different problem. We must keep in mind that insulation does not generate heat, it only retards the rate of heat loss. Even well insulated supply pipes will freeze if exposed to sub freezing to sub-zero temperature for a prolonged period of time. One method of protecting the pipe is to run it as high as possible through the joist bays and insulate the underside in the same manner as suggested for P-traps. Another method is to run the hot & cold lines very close together, then install a circulation loop on the hot water line and cover both the hot & cold lines in a common insulation. In this manner the slight amount of heat radiating from the hot water line would be retained in the common insulation and thereby protect the adjacent cold water line. The next option would be to install thermostatic controlled electric heating tapes on the pipes, then cover that with insulation to keep the heat in. In regards to what type of insulation. It really doesn't make a lot of difference. While the preformed poly-foam insulation is what the homeowner is usually most familiar with, they make both poly-foam and rigid preformed sections of fiberglass pipe insulation with either a paper or plastic covering in sizes ranging from 1/2" diameter up to 20" diameter and they also make matching preformed covers for Tee's and elbows but you would have to get those types of insulation from a local HVAC or Plumbing Supply....See MoreShould a crawl space under a New England home be a deal breaker?
Comments (11)Pros and cons. Please comment to add to or correct what I list here. edited: I just saw that the house has a crawlspace. These can vary greatly in usefulness. Pros for basement. Provides Storage area Utility area Maybe provide additional living space. Easy access to plumbing, etc.for repairs or to make changes which are lower cost than a slab. Heating has more options, easier (not sure) Cons for basement More expensive to build/buy Any others??? Pros for slab. Lower cost to build/buy Any others??? Cons for slab. No storage No possible additional living space Heating options limited/higher cost (not sure) Changes or repairs to plumbing are expensive For my DH and me the main concerns would be the easy low cost access to utilities. We've fixed broken pipes and added/moved sinks, etc all without much cost. Also have run electrical and cable lines through the basement. Also the storage. I just estimated that we would need a 500 sf addition to make up for the loss of our basement. It would include a woodshop, storage for seasonal items, camping and hunting equipment, laundry, utilities such as furnace, hot water tanks, etc. The basement is much cheaper than an addtional 500 sf of living space. Write up your own pros and cons. This post was edited by debrak2008 on Sun, Dec 15, 13 at 11:32...See Morelittlebug zone 5 Missouri
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