Whilst waiting forever and a day for those photos to load, I took the opportunity to watch a few segments of 'On The Town', a great musical by Leonard Bernstein, which I recorded the other night from BBC Proms at the Royal Albert Hall, London...

Brilliant American artist Nathaniel Hackmann played a leading role, he has a great voice and wonderful acting skills which bring everything he does to life in a way you don't often see..

It also helps that he's something of a 'hunk', but I'm sure he wouldn't want that to get in the way...

What a beautiful rose -- and shade tolerant, too! It looks like it would be harmonious with old roses. What is the yellow rose with it?

oh thanks Jeri, I thought you had that one... such lovely blooms...I was hoping someone would post photos of it, as I couldn't..

my rose is generally about 4 x 3 foot currently..

Monarda.... thanks.. yes shade tolerant.. the yellow is 'The Poet's Wife' [Austin] another non stop bloomer..

If you wait long enough, IHT can make 4-ft. Less mature plants might be 2-ft. Don't let anyone tell you to prune it to a 5-leaflet leaf -- you'll go down to 6 inches!

Oh ok, thanks Jeri... my 'FR' rose is currently about 4 x 3 foot, it sent up a 5 foot cane with lots of buds but I've cut that back a bit... so it's doing really well.. it seems to only need light pruning...

Marlorena, that is a spectacular colour, and what a glorious combination with the yellow of The Poet's Wife. I've said it before -I think your garden should be in a book. Perhaps you could do it yourself?

This is my first introduction to this rose, and what a beauty it is. It's darker than IHT and seems to have a few more petals, and each has its own charm. I also have IHT, planted rather too close to Marie Pavie, and this year partially eaten by the rabbits, but it bravely puts out a few blooms at the top in spite of it all. I'll go out tonight to see if there is anything to photograph. Thank you, Marlorena, for introducing us to this lovely little rose.

I thought you also had 'IHT' Ingrid,... thanks...

Trish... thanks again, so kind of you to say so...

I like both Forever Royal and IHT. The rich purple toned blooms do look very regal.

I like On the Town, I've seen the film version... The sailors have a pleasant joie de vivre... I agree, New York is a wonderful town... :)

Thanks for posting this, Marlorena. It's one of those potted roses I have that really should go out this season,and the info on it's tolerance of shade is precious indeed! If it does so well in so much shade in England, it should definitely be happy in shade in Italy.

Thanks bart, I hope it does well for you... I did not know it was available in Italy, or perhaps you imported it...

You know, some days I feelz the garden looks better than other times, don't you?.

[I think I ought to flag the post above yours... oops it's gone... [not yours Krista] ]...

I liked the conceit about 'Miss Subways' in On the Town. That was a real thing that I remember well, growing up in NYC. For many many years there was an "Ellen's Coffee Cafe" near City Hall owned by a real Miss Subways, Ellen Hart (Miss Subways, 1959). (Of course, I liked the name of the restaurant, which is my given one real life. Sadly, I never went in there.)
According to the NYTimes in 1941 the first Miss Subways, a manicurist at the Waldorf-Astoria, "received 258 proposals of marriage, an orchid a day for six months from one smitten rider and, from an adoring bakery truck driver, a lemon meringue pie three feet in diameter. This may sound like a fairy tale, but it's true."
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/10/15/nyregion/subway-queens-of-old-to-gather-for-reunion.html

I got mine from a German nursery, Myroses. They have quite an interesting selection, with some real rarities for us in Europe,though I wish they were more communicative with their customers.

I've not heard of that nursery bart, I'm going to go and look it up.. sounds good.. although I also have found German nurseries to not be the easiest to buy roses from...

monarda..

..thanks so much for that interesting link, I did enjoy reading that article from the NY Times... the part I found most enlightening was that in 1947 they had a black lady win the Miss Subways contest, - a Brooklyn College student,... because in the BBC Proms production this year which I so enjoyed and mentioned upthread, - about the best thing I've seen on t.v. all year - they had a black actress play the role of 'Miss Turnstiles'... I admit to questioning how realistic that may have been in the 1940's, and this does take place during wartime, but this has answered my question...

..in fact, they had a number of ethnic actors in this performance amongst the ensemble cast, all of whom were quite excellent and as a group almost stole the show for me..

I loved all the songs, but perhaps 'I Can Cook Too' is my favourite and actress Louise Dearman just sang and acted it to perfection... I almost learnt the words off by heart..

aww bart, that's a good nursery, I could be tempted by quite a few there... they also have some old Austins you don't see anymore.. but their website leaves something to be desired, not enough information... they are not doing themselves any favours...

I had not heard of this place before now..

Malorena, I am transplanted from Manhattan to Brooklyn -- via several other states. But I can say that NYC was more liberal than the rest of the country in the late 40 and 50s, Brooklyn especially. I know that the Brooklyn Philharmonic Orchestra which was restarted in the 1954 under Sigfried Landau hired both black and women classical musicians long before the New York Philharmonic or any other major orchestra did. (It is currently squeezed out of the magnificent Brooklyn Academy of Music that was built in its honor because of budget considerations -- o tempora o mores!)

This post above from HU looks to me like spam.

Marlorena, I get the impression that Myroses nursey is a pretty small company,and, no, their site is not great. Also I dislike the fact that they seem to think that it's adequate to do everything electronically: click on "products" you want, add to basket ,pay on-line...but the fact is, they are not Amazon,with perfect organization,and when it comes to buying plants it's preferrable, IMO, to have the ability to contact the nursery personally in case of need,and they do NOT make that easy.

Sometimes you know bart I get surprised by German nurseries because if there's one country where you would think they would want to make things as easy as possible for people to do business, it would be Germany, yet with roses it often seems to be the case that the opposite is true...

One could transpose that attitude to Brexit actually...