Oak floor lovers - your best eng. oak floor?
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White Oak Floors: Can I keep them natural or would staining be best?
Comments (44)@Robin Morris, Im a bit confused between the terminology of "sealer" and "finish coat", but I love the look on your floors! Are they glossy or completely matte. I like the look in broad day light better than at night! Just to make sure, you applied one coat of Bona Birch and then 3 coats of another stain which is Bone Mega? (Looking at your samples picture, bone mega looked darker and orangier...) I'm trying to get my white oak cabinets to have a neutral look as well!...See MoreSmooth white oak flooring?
Comments (4)@ Sirwoodland - solid hardwood should be cheaper than factory finished engineered hardwood. Engineered hardwood is supposed to carry a higher price range....because it takes more man-hours to get it read of market than solid hardwood. A Character Grade or Common Grade #2 White Oak in a 3" plank should be $5/sf to purchase. The installation + finishing should be another $4-$5/sf. Total cost should be $11 - $12/sf. A mid-range engineered hardwood should be $6-$8/sf with install being $3/sf. Total cost of the job = $11/sf. Roughly the same....See MoreAre These Red oak or white oak floors? Stain Ideas
Comments (26)@jjam Your floors look beautiful. @Angela Wacker I hope your floors turn out beautiful. @mdln these are such a good ideas/solutions next time I am doing a renovation I will make sure to get this kit. I went by the house in the morning and took a closeup photo (prior to getting confirmation from the contractor and subcontractor) It does look like white oak. @SJ McCarthy thank you for all the information, it gave me ideas on what to ask the contractor and how to have a conversation about the floors. I even came up with a few more stains to try in case the original choices did not work out. The contractor e-mailed me early this afternoon agreeing to test a few more colors. We asked him, again, regarding the type of floors we have and the new ones they installed, initially he said the floors were red oak, but then he texted us an hour later letting us know that the sub had informed him that it was white oak!?! What!! @Beth Thank you!!!! @SashaDog Thank you!!!! @G & S Floor Service @Timothy Winzell it appears you guys were right - it is white oak -probably. Quality/grade? who knows! I cant believe the contractor did not know this! It appears my worries about the floors looking red after a light stain were unnecessary. We stopped by the home to see the samples on our "white oak" and the white stain looked nice with the top coat on it, not pink. The birch was nice, but we decided to go with the white as it looks more like the natural color of the wood we love. I am still anxious about the overall outcome, but crossing fingers that it turns out nice. I am going by the house tomorrow and working from my car so I can take a look and stop the workers in their tracks if it looks bad lol. I am just kidding...but maybe I am not :) Here are the two samples we tried Bona Birch and Duraseal White with bona HD on our "white oak" floors (this is not 100% for sure lol). Leaving the picture here in case someone is looking for a picture of these two stains. You are all such a wonderful group of people! Thank you for helping me through my anxiety. This morning I felt so stupid to have been worrying about a floor stain when so much more important things are going on in the world. Anyways, thank you and much love to you all. Stay healthy!! -Mari...See MoreNew white oak floors - best sealer and finish to prevent darkening
Comments (18)For the benefit of future readers, I'd like to clarify issues underlying the perception of the previous poster @Susan Tuyen about Loba EasyPrime. Both Loba EasyPrime and Loba 2K Supra A.T., two products with which I have experience, are infused with a white coloration that dries down to clear. This is for the benefit of the finisher to be able to see where the coating has been laid down during the application process. It also helps in knowing when the product is dry. @SusanTuyen could take any raw spare wood left over at this moment and wipe it with a wet cloth dampened in plain water and see the same "color change" that happened when EasyPrime was applied. It is a darkening of the existing wood's color. Using the Loba 2K Invisible Protect A.T. without primer is generally a bad idea for white oak due to tannin pull, even though the Invisible creates less of a darkening effect. The EasyPrime help prevents side bonding on all woods, so it's a risk to skip that step with any wood. If you'll stay with me, I'll try to explain further about perception of color change. In short, the color change that has been seen is actually coming from the wood itself, and if a white or light finish was desired, then this should have been discussed with the finisher so that bleach to the raw wood and/or Loba's whitening agent for topcoats could have been added. If this finishing project is still underway, I would recommend putting the process on pause, taking a scrap piece of wood, and doing a new sample of white bleach made for flooring on the raw wood and adding Loba's whitener to the topcoats as needed. This sort of sample should have been done initially anyway before the final finishing had begun, so it is a mystery why this seems to have been skipped and the client thus so unpleasantly surprised. The client's dissatisfaction may have also arisen in part from whomever sold her "white oak" not educating her properly about the expected outcome of finishing this wood without any added bleaching or whitener if she wanted a white look. "White" in the name "white oak" may be misleading to some. The main difference between white oak and red oak is that white oak has a higher tannin content that can lead to tannin pull when waterbased coatings are used. Thus, EasyPrime probably saved her from big blotches of tannin rising to the surface on her white oak. In some instances, white oak and red oak are so indistinguishable that they must be sent to a lab for verification. Sometimes red oak will present with a pink tint to it, but other times not. Furthermore, both raw red oak and white oak may shift amber over time. Yes, an oil-based coating can add a yellowing effect, but presence of a waterbased coating does not always counteract it. For further education on the potential of both raw red and white oak to turn amber over time, please visit this excellent project page by Scherr's cabinetry company about the color shift of raw wood. You will see in their own samples of raw red oak and white oak that over a 7-year span, both of these woods turned more orange, or amber, as it is more commonly termed when speaking of the shift of wood color. The stair treads that @Susan Tuyen had installed were possibly freshly cut and sanded so were at their lightest, and they may have ambered over time even without any coating at all simply due to exposure. The EasyPrime darkened the natural color that was already present. As I mentioned earlier, the white, Scandinavian flooring look that has been so popular in the recent past is achieved with additional bleaching products, usually to the topcoats, but often to the raw wood in addition. Trends are moving more now toward embracing the natural amber effect of most woods used in flooring and cabinetry, but if the white look was desired, it can be achieved with a significant amount of additional work that it sounds like was not done in this project....See MoreRelated Professionals
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