@hayleytamea The second photo is the Bedrosians Cloe tile in grey. That photo is reposted from the IG called “beginning in the middle ”

I have both Zellige tile and Cloe tile in my house. I have the Cloe in white, not in grey.

@hayleytamea Also I read they used warm gray unsanded grout with the Cloe tile. They have the full remodel with tons of photos posted to their IG stories highlights called WCC Bath.

Hope that helps you!

So helpful, thank you!

The Amber Lewis bathroom tile above is (I am almost certain) Cle Weathered White Zellige in 2x6 Bejmat. It is expensive ($20/sqft) as it is quite literally hand glazed and chisled in Morocco. It is also very thick - 3/4 inches thick ( other shapes are less so). It comes in boxes that weigh about 50lbs each and they are shipped to your home on palletized freight. You can install it yourself but it is not for the faint of heart - it’s packed in sawdust and wood chips, the tiles have to be washed, evaluated, mixed and soaked. There are absolutely chips and imperfections and the tiles are extremely irregular and the color variation is high. There are a number of grouting strategies that create very distinctive looks and making it look gracefully organic instead of sloppy is an art form. Some of the pics on Instagram come from designers who ordered 50% overage then handpicked a smaller amount of perfect tiles and must have had very specific conversations with experienced installers and made a number of test boards.

I know this because I have a number of counter-to-ceiling walls in which I’m installing them in my own home right now and I find them beautiful beyond words.

I’m truly very sad for the disappointment of the original poster, I can’t imagine how frustrating it must be to spend that money for a dream installation and feel unhappy with the outcome.

Having said that my experience with Cle has been wonderful, the product is high-quality artisan, and quite bluntly I’m not sure how much more clear they could be on their website in terms of expectation-setting re the above. I’m not affiliated with them at all just wanted to provide another perspective for those considering purchasing.

@ueueue uueueu can you share your project photos?

Hi Shiloh (I don’t know why my name looks like that) yes I will do the full pics as soon as we are done with the tile. Should be 4-5 days. In the meantime here is my ungrouted butlers pantry. The till will go all the way up but my thinset dried out. I am doing battled armor backsplash for my pantry but weathered white in my kitchen. The kitchen has a dark island so they sort of reverse and compliment each other

Hi! i have been going between Cle Weathered White and Bedrosians Cloe for weeks for a small cabin project I am doing. The weathered white matches the cabinet color well, which is Sherwin Williams Dover White. However I do not have a sample of the Bedrosians. Does anyone have a picture of it with Dover White or know if it matches. It looks a bit cooler than weathered white in pictures. Thank you for your time.

@mea2006 Your kitchen looks amazing! Did you have to find a tile specialist to do the install?

Just wondering how to go about finding a tiler that can handle the Cle tile. Thanks!

Ashley, any pro tiler should be able to handle these tiles. cheap prices will get you cheap, inexperienced labor. if you want quality, you'll have to pay for it. Try a high end tile store and ask the manager who tiled his bathroom.

Ok I said I’d post, please excuse the unfinished kitchen still installing appliances and currently painting. The tiler and grout are everything. We worked closely to select tiles for high profile places our eyes were drawn to while interjecting the imperfect ones throughout. Again grout color don’t underestimate…so choose wisely or sample it first with your tiler. Oh and if your wondering the 2x6” weathered white is Actually 1.75” x 51/2”…we were planning to the inch. We used 1/8” spacing for the grout.

Angharad, looks nice! (suggestion on your switchplates. get the wood ones and paint them the exact color(white/gray) as your tiles so that they blend in w/the tile color. the creamy offwhite seems to work better w/your cabinet color.

love your gold sconces over the window! great touch.

what are your plans for the outside edge?

Is there molding that goes here? or why didn't you take the tile to the edge?

I had some cement tiles from CleTile (same thickness as those) and did a wood trim for the edging.

I used the same Zellige tles in black in my floor inset.

for the border I did a black Schluter edging piece. (but that's too late for yours.

I love the exposed natural colored edge of the Moroccan tike…I don’t want to color match paint the edge (which you can do), its part of the charm. It ends there because you can’t see but the marble and lower corner cabinet ends there. They did put the wrong plates on…good eye (it’s unfinished…counting the days!) We did the same slate herringbone pattern and used 2 rows of the same time to create a border, but we used darker matching grout (totally different look…almost makes it look seamless). It’s covered right now or if rage a photo. Happy thanksgiving!

Spelling…won’t let me edit, lol

https://help.cletile.com/tile-trim-details

Hi @Sarah Boyd Can I ask what tub you purchased? The one with the shower glass doors and zellige tiles? thanks!

Hi Kay! I don’t remember the details but I purchased it from Ferguson’s in California about 1.5 years ago. Hope that helps!

Hi @mea2006 - Did you ever share your cabinet color? Id love to know!! it looks so good!

The experience with Cle is horrible. 10/10 do not recommend. Terrible customer service and this isn’t even about how hard the tile is to work with. They completely lost my order and are not doing anything about it. its absolutely unbelievable. Now I know why they have to write pages of warnings—-it’s because they are a company that lacks any ounce of integrity. Please, please, please, save yourself. The dream design will not become reality with Cle. It is not worth the time, the money, the heartache.

@Angharad Musladin which grout color did you use? I'm trying to decide between White, Frost, or Avalanche

Sabrina Campacci, I just now read your comment so it may be too late now since it was months ago. Zellige tile is available in Canada - Saltillo Tiles carries them - likely other places too. Saltillo is in Toronto, Ottawa and Calgary.

They have beautiful tile and you'll see many of the Canadian designers on HGTV source all their tiles through that store.

For those coming back to this thread based on interest in "Cle Tile" (not other Zellige or "Zellige look" tiles), we are seeing some serious concerns in the professional tile contracting industry that echos Claire Odeoso's (above poster) concerns about quality and service right now. Over the top, serious problems and no help at all from Cle. Damaged (not imperfect but unusable) tiles to the extent you cannot complete the project, zero help from Cle and even worse stories. Maybe something happened in past few years with quality control, management, service, etc., but there is an alert out to tile contractors to beware. Just a heads up. Cle needs to get their act together. And while we are talking about this, Please consider those REAL handmade tile artisan SMALL Businesses that can knock it out of the park for you. There are many all over the country. You might find they are not more expensive in the long run. *Note, we are not a tile maker, but we care about the industry and our customers.

@Dragonfly Tile & Stone Works, Inc. thank you for sharing. Do have any experience with Riad?

@Shiloh S, We do not have experience personally with RIAD so cannot comment. We DO work with many handmade tile makers and are involved in our industry effort to educate tile professionals on best practices for working with handmade tile for optimal results.

@mea2006 Your kitchen turned out beautiful! May I ask what grout spacing you used? Also, are you happy with the frost grey grout? Wondering if I should go with frost grey or avalanche. Any advice would be appreciated!

@kbm16 I’m also trying to decide on grout colour. Which one did you go with?

@Vanessa McNicol I went with Frost. If you'd like to see it, I posted pictures in a post that you should be able to see if you click on my profile

9383838392% true the custuomer servicr is TERRIBLE!! product is terrible everythijg is so terrible

Overall I had a great experience with Cle considering I ordered all of my materials during Covid and the supply chain was totally whacked, just like the rest of the world (1 year and still don’t have my bosch dish washer). There was a certain portion of tiles that were not to our liking ….but we did exactly what they said which was order the percentage more than you needed and Cle helped us round those numbers out so there was actually no surprises. We order slate for our entry and that looks great too. The weathered white tile looks beautiful in our kitchen, we went with 2 x 6 tiles and pairs perfectly with the cake batter paint color from Benjamin Moore. If you are a perfectionist or get bothered by tiny flaws in materials or do not like rustic looks with character don’t get this tile. I personally think it’s beautiful in my kitchen but it’s truly up to the eye of the beholder at the end of the day. You are going to see flaws in this tile and you’re going to need to be OK with that… it is the look. I have this feeling that a bunch of people saw the top designers like Becky Owens and Shay McGee do some kitchens in this tile and you didn’t get to see all of the processes involved in putting it up but designers work closely with there contractors, and so did Shay (she posted videos of her kitchen being done and you’ll see). To make sure the color of the grout was correct we didn’t go with a recommendation on the Cle site and we worked with our contractor to make sure that things were going in the right direction, sometimes contractors are stubborn and use the grout they’ve been working with for years and that is ok too. Question to ask your tile guy is if they’ve ever worked with natural tiles like cle, our guys are also marble/granite installers. I just think all of these photo shopped pictures that people post on the Internet don’t do it justice bc if you zoom in on Shea McGee‘s home in her own actual kitchen you’ll see flaws and she also post videos of it being put up so you can see how actually flawed the material is which is part of its charm! the way she she pairs old with new materials in her homes is “the look”. So yes support local tile places in Canada, yes get used to seeing flaws in Cle tile, yes hire good stone workers who understand the business (btw they admitted said it is hard to work with but that not Cle’s fault. Its thick, heavy and will take more time than they are used to. It will break when they cut it sometimes. Have them stop in sections and ask you if it’s going in the right direction if there is a particular tile that is going to really bother you have them move it before it’s too late. And with any order your contractors should always be ordering a little extra anyhow probably just a little extra more with Cle. will that incur additional cost…. of course that’s the price you’re paying for this look. When your contractor spends more time putting it on your wall will that incur more cost of course. will that make you angry of course…. but it’s the kitchen I’m going to be staring at for 20 years. My sister just put up tile in her kitchen that was half the time half the cost and looks great with no imperfections it’s faster to put up thinner ceramic tiles… and she is happy.

Hi guys...I was in love with my cle tiles until they were up and glazed...now I feel like they are too pink. I spent hours and hours cherry picking so they would look mostly grey...like in Becky Owen's photos. Do any of you feel like they are too pink? I don't mind the imperfection. I love that aspect but after all of this money and time I have spent, I am unhappy with the color. Has anyone ever reglazed zellige tile? Is that even possible?

@mich230 Im sorry youre not likjng them, but im glad you shared this. when I have seen cles tile online unfiltered I always saw purple and pinker tones, which led me to find Riad. I have yet to order, but this helps confrim! Becki Owens Family Ties is the Sea Salt, is this what you used or did you go with Weathered White?

@Shiloh S @mich230 I also wemt with Riad and am very happy with them! All of the designers like Becki owens use filters and professional photographers so the image youre seeing might be altered. Did you order samples first? I think you should live with them for awhile before attempting anything.

Also, just a thought, what items are surrounding your tiles, perhaps they arr picking up colors that are more pink undertone in the surrounding area. Try putting some darker items around them, darker shelves or cabinets ?

I went with the weathered white. I changed the grout to be a bit darker which creates more contrast and looks better but still not in love. I really want to reglaze them but not sure what that would look like on the other end. Has anyone every reglazed Zellige?

And Kay, you are right...I am working with my contractor to adjust my under the cabinet lighting with is making them look many different colors depending on the color temperature ugh

Thanks @kay. I love your kitchen. Do you know what white paint matches your cabinets the best? Did you ise the same color on walls. Your Riad looks great!

Mich230, just curious why did you glazes the weathered white? They come pre-glazed already?

I remember reading on the Clé Tile website that you shouldn’t use spacers when installing these tiles and they’re meant to be placed really close together.

I read that spacers are optional ... it isn't hard and fast rule on this tile. We used spacers though. It sort of like the quarter round piece that lots of people want to finish the edges, again optional...it's a different look if you omit it like some suggest (imperfect/rustic vs more finished). I honestly don't know how they do without the spacers because I think it helps them keep things even?

Working on my bathroom right now using Cle Tile. My order took 2-3 weeks longer during pandemic. But other than that, it went quite smooth. Doing it myself. It is challenging and I am no expert. This is my second time doing tiles and the first was a very small subway tile backplash. This is a lot lot more time consuming, but so much prettier. I am working on my accent wall using Cle Tea Ceremony 2 x 6. The te ceremony is more blue than green. I hope it will change a bit when my lights are all in. Work in progress. Low light right now but the Sea Salt is quite white and clean. I ordered exactly 15% over as suggested by Cle and it worked out for me.

For those who are interested in DIY, here are my process steps:

1) Mixed/blended all boxes.

2) I separated the more flawed ones and use them for areas where I didnt need the whole tiles (i.e., shower niche or corners). Also blended the flawed ones from all different boxes. I find about 5-7% was really unusable. But I really took the time to go thru each piece to determine. I am not sure if typical contractors will do that.

3) Soaked a bunch at a time for at least 2 min. I left them in the bucket much longer, but at least soak them that long so they could get moisture instead of sucking in the moisture from the thin set.

4) Placed on wall to test how they would come together before pasting it on permanently. I placed them edge to edge, no spacers. I also only trimmed/shaved them when I must. Otherwise, just embraced the irregularity and variance. Applied thin set to the wall and also the back of the tiles.

5) Used the wedges to lift corners here and there.

6) Cleaned and dehazed

7) Applied grout and cleaned

It was very crucial to read the instructions from Cle like 5 times. Also watched youtube videos.

This thread scared me, so I ordered way too many tiles so that I can pick out the best ones. Honestly, even the most imperfect ones would’ve still worked. I opened all the boxes up before delivery truck left. I took photos of them on the pallet as Cle suggested. Very happy with Cle and the tiles.

I have had a similar terrible experience with Cle. There is perfectly imperfect - different coloring, uneven adherence to the wall to create texture - and then there's scratches, cracks, brown and green spots. The problem isn't that such issues aren't expected in a tile order, but the sheer number of affected tiles - over 25% of my order was like that. If i were to use those tiles on a wall, i'd get something looking like someone took a hammer at the wall, played darts on it, or the tiles had some form of chicken pox prior to installation. Joking aside, customer service was terrible. Not just straight refusal to make any amends, but they were rude and just said I clearly don't know how to appreciate Zellige, so tough luck. Their strategy seems to be to tire you out until you give up. As the OP said, NONE ZERO of their pictures posted on the website show any of these issues with the tiles, at least not to the extent that I have encountered them in my order. Look, depending on surface tile, having a few of them with brown and green spots and cracks may be fine, but imagine half a wall of that. That is what they claim is normal. I asked that they take their normal tiles back and resell them but they refuse to take anything back unless i sent the full order back. Clearly, they know they can't resell the bad tiles. I also want to note that my order wasn't custom or made to order - they had a bunch of boxes in stock when i called to order and just picked a few and sent them to me. Anyway. I burned myself once and it won't happen again. I reached out to a few of their competitors who sell Zellige, presented my issues (which those competitors didn't say were expected!), and ordered the replacement amount I needed. I will never again order from Cle, especially not after their arrogant attitude. It costs nothing to treat each other with respect.

I checked every tile and about 25% of them weren’t as nice, but my installer used them anyway. Once they go on with the grout, then you can hardly notice the defects. The imperfections add interest imo, and bonus is that if your kitchen backsplash gets dirty, the mess blends in as well lol, but they are easy to clean. I truly love my Cle tiles and prefer how imperfect they look.

@samuelzmom, I'm curious what you have in the vase to the left of the cooktop.

I love the tile and installed it in my brothers master bathroom and kitchen. I actually want it in mine. No problems with installation, cracked or imperfect tiles.

@Robi J
Did you install Zellige tile? It honestly looks like Bedrosian Cloe ceramic tile in white (2.5” x 8”)

@samuelzmom @angharad_musladin Hoping either of you or anyone can offer some advice. I read this thread before I ordered my weathered white zellige tile from cle but I ordered anyway in hopes of achieving my own swoon worthy zellige kitchen to match what I see all over social media. I’m in the middle of my install and now panicked. The color feels totally wrong - my lot seems most white/cool tones. I understood the tile had high color variations but I thought that meant high variation between my 19 boxes - that I would have a mix of white, cream, pink pink, and blues. I don’t know what to do now. Will grout improve this? I’m realizing there aren’t a lot of pre and post grout examples out there. Is this a trust the process type thing? My kitchen feels like a cartoon. Is this normal? LOL

My samples are on the countertop for reference. They were much warmer (what I hoped for).

After looking at pictures on cle', we knew we wanted the 2x6 zellige tile for our kitchen backsplash. However, we had a hard time finding reviews, as well as pictures of people who had actually used it. We decided to take a risk and ordered the tile. We were very unhappy with the first installer, and had him take it all down. Our contractor then found another installer, who was vey slow, but loved a good challenge. We are more than pleased with the results, and highly recommend the cle' zellige bejmat. We ordered 15% over in the moroccan sea salt, and had around 2 boxes left over. We used a white grout, and used no particular spacing, as the installer just spaced them as to keep the vertical and horizontal lines straight. For anyone who has doubts, I promise you wont be disappointed.

Hello all, I am curious if anyone has used Riad? I am wondering if since they ship from the US there has been any trouble with cracking compared to Cle.

I would be shocked to hear they literally mocked you though I believe you that you've had a frustrating experience.

Any experience with Ann Sacks zellige? It's more expensive but we received samples from Cle and they were very flawed so we will pass. I'm also looking at Bedrosian and Riad. I have not received my Riad sample. I lke the Bedrosian sample and there is a store in my area which makes it convenient.

https://www.annsacks.com/collections/idris-by-ait-manos

I am a producer of zellige tiles and mosaics, as in all sectors there are liars, the authentic zellige made in Fez its beauty is due to imperfections in tone, color but never chips, that is because they deceived you and they were not responsible clikh here ZELLIGE

That is absolutely how they are, they are imperfect which is what makes them
Perfect. the website even says that they will have small chips and cracks in some of them. At least the one I go to.