Shrub/small tree... could be serviceberry?
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Tall Shrub/Small Tree, small white flowers
Comments (15)Joe - Nah. Not an Amelanchier. Foliage is not quite right, and Amelanchier flowers have skinner petals. Carol - that could be it. Definitely something in the Rosaceae family, I think. My only hesitation is that this garden was neglected for quite some time, is overrun with lonicera (both vines and shrubs), berberis, Euonymus alatus, etc. And these shrubs are covering an entire side of the suburban yard. It looks like they've been there for a while, and they're taking over along with the rest. Has P. villosa been around for a while? Does it show invasive tendencies here?...See MoreLooking for ornamental Native shrub/small tree
Comments (19)Entling, after reading about Pagoda dogwood I was smitten. Beautiful form and nice flowers and berries. I ordered 40 native seedlings from a nursery in NH, including 10 Cornus alternifolia. But these are going to be little baby 1-2 year old seedlings! I'm impatient and want to buy something that's already 6 feet tall at least. Gcreek, height is not so much an issue, but width is (this location is about 8 feet from the driveway). Something that grew about 15-20 ft high would be great but not as wide. Red chokeberry is probably too short and shrubby (but great for the other side of the yard!) Cornus florida would be beautiful but would probably eventually get too wide. Amelanchier seems to grow more vertically than laterally. Kind of a rangy multi-stemmed habit, but maybe with good pruning it could be shaped nicely. I also read that it casts fairly light shade and has well behaved roots and perennials can be planted underneath (which is good because I already have peonies circling this burning bush)....See Morelooking for small tree or tree-like shrub
Comments (4)I'm too far north to imagine what the banana might look like, but I bet it would be nice. And the fan palm would be lovely. Chaste tree, Vitex angus-castus, is a pretty southern substitute for lilac, with grey-green leaves and beautiful blue flowers. Desert willow seems like it would be nice, too -- not sure how tall they get. Fothergilla is beautiful in bloom; you could prune it to a single stem I think. Sterile Rose of Sharon, trimmed to tree-form would be an unusual, tropical looking plant. (I did this with regular ROS and while I loved the look, the seedlings were killer!) Hope you find something that works for you -- looks like a lovely space!...See MoreMultiple Stemmed Small Tree / Shrub
Comments (25)Since you are in Chicago, you could take a wander around the Chicago Botanical Garden along with some good nurseries to get some ideas, and you would be able to judge fall color if you go this weekend. I often look up plants on the Missouri Botanical Garden's plant finder website while I am wandering to see if its size and habit will work in my space. I try to consider long term appeal - flowers, fall color, overall plant shape and structure, and winter silhouette in a spot like yours. Check disease resistance, and if you have Japanese beetles or other insects that can cause issues, see how badly they effect the plants. From what others have said on GW, there seems to be some range of soils in the Chicago area from sandy to those with quite a bit of clay. What's yours like? Have you had a soil test done so you know the soil pH? That will effect what will grow well. Also, is there any chance you could post a photo of a larger view such as from the curb or across the street so we can see the entire front of the house and the property from side to side? Your inspiration photo shows a much larger space with the tree set farther from the house, and I wonder if your small tree/shrub might be better placed farther from the house also. Would the bed look better if extended forward to the outer edge of the walkway and with a wider spot for the tree as in the inspiration photo? Some ideas to consider: Tree form Hydrangea paniculata (panicle hydrangea) has a several month season of bloom and I like the dried flowers in winter as well. You could get one and train it through pruning to be multistemmed and it would be less expensive than buying a tree form one which is usually single trunked. Look at the larger ones like Limelight and Pinky Winky, and consider if you want stiffer stems that hold the flowers more upright or a more weeping form. Also look at the shape, color, and density of the flower panicles since they vary from almost rounded and lacy to dense and conical. There are many photos on the Hydrangea forum. (Pinky Winky vs Vanilla Strawberry and Pinky Winky vs Quickfire and Limelight) If you would consider a single stem, that would be a great spot for one of the smaller, disease resistant crabapples such as Sparkling Sprite, Sargent, Pink Princess, Firebird or Adirondack. All of those I listed should stay within 15' and have excellent disease resistance, though some other crabs are disease prone or much larger, so choose carefully. Be sure to set it far enough from the house to accommodate width. Look at some of the smaller magnolias such as Ann, Betty, Jane, and Susan (all from the Girls collection bred at the National Arboretum in the 1950s) which tend bloom late enough so that they don't get zapped by late spring frosts. In addition to spring flowers, I enjoy the winter look of pale bark and large silvery fuzzy buds. There are others in the series as well (Pinky, Randi, Judy, and Ricki) but I've never seen them offered. Check out some of the smaller Magnolia stellata (star magnolia) such as 'Waterlily' and smaller M. x loebneri such as 'Leonard Messel'. In my garden Leonard Messel blooms late enough to not get hit by spring frosts and has gorgeous clear yellow fall color as well as the blooms and winter attributes. I don't grow the others, so don't know about fall color. They may get to 20', but my LM at ~10 years old hasn't yet hit 10', so it would be quite a number of years. Some of the star and Loebner magnolias get bigger so be sure to check on MOBOT listed above. Plant tags tend to give size at 5-10 years. Japanese tree lilac (Syringa reticulata) 'Ivory Silk' has creamy spring flowers and pretty bark. Be sure you like the scent of the flowers since it isn't the same as regular lilacs. Some of the larger Viburnums may work there, though would need pruning to be more tree-like. Spring flowers, great fall color. I like Indianagardengirl's suggestion of Autumn Brilliance, though it may get larger than you want. I'd research to see if there are smaller serviceberries (or if you can pull it away from the house more and use a larger plant like this.) In some areas they may be disease prone, but where they aren't they are stunning - spring flowers and lightly colored spring foliage just as the buds open, berries that the birds love, and gorgeous fall color. I like the winter look as well. Before looking seriously at Logan's suggestion of Japanese maples, see how they do in your area. Where I am, some of the hardier types do OK in city heat islands, but only a very few are hardy enough here in my more rural setting, and they may get killed back in harsh winters even in cities. You don't want an easily damaged tree in such a prominent spot. You will also need to choose a cultivar that stays small - many get much bigger than 15'. Not multistemmed, but interesting form. For your evergreens, be sure you like the smell of boxwoods before planting them near the door and window. Some folks find the scent unappealing. How far is the window above the ground? As Embothrium said, you don't need to cover up the foundation, so low-growing evergreens such as perennials could work as well as shrubs there. As mad gallica commented, with a south-facing exposure here, many broad-leafed evergreens will winter burn (Leucothoe, box, Rhododendrons, Pieris/andromeda, etc) so you may be restricted to perennials or conifers. The low conifers in your inspiration photo around the tree look to be low junipers....See Morefatamorgana2121
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