Dear Friends, Apparently Gardenweb username "vleeor" is the soul who sent me Hoya cuttings and the 'hoyas in the wild' text of which we speak. I use Google mail, so I still have all the emails. At the time of our very first communication I did not know who she was, and I wondered how she knew I wanted Hoyas. She did not say she found me on Gardenweb. Because she lives near me I thought she may have heard of my interest from a mutual friend. I definitely did not tell any kind of "story" here. From the text of my Reply you can see exactly what I was thinking: ****************************** Posted by plant.babies Zone 7-8 (gw:plant.babies) on Sun, Sep 3, 06 at 22:41 actually, I got it in an email from the generous soul who sent me many of the Hoyas I now own. I wanted to be able to access the list when in gardenweb, so I thought the best way would be to post it. Apparently it is wording from a Talk given by David Liddle at some point in the past. I don't know if it is on a website or not. *********************** The "hoyas in the wild" text was in the body of a long email which I pasted as "Unformatted Text" into MSWORD so that I could study and keep it. All formatting was, thereby, lost, so it was not clear that the "hoyas in the wild" text came from a website. Since I had never been to A_Hoyas website before today, there is no way I could "steal" the text from there. I only posted it to the forum so that I might readily access the information without having to open MSWORD constantly while online, which *I will say again*, I clearly stated. I work in online Publishing, so I am very cognizant of Copyright law and form. So ... Mes faux pas dans la vie if I posted text that 'belongs' to someone else, not understanding from whence it came. I should have asked, but really I thought the lady had been to a talk by David Liddle. This lack of understanding does not make me a bad person, or a person who has performed (or ever would) a deliberate act of dishonesty. It was an honest (albeit newbie) mistake. There is no way to retract it. However... My sincerest apologies and my sincere thanks to Ms. Carole, vleeor, David Liddle, and every other person who works so hard to bring Hoyas to others. warmest regards, pb

now we are going down memory lane, on youtube!! LOL so we are the cool parents!!! we listen to heavy metal, LOL and rock, LOL tabor said, ahhh man your the bomb!!! of course now its twisted sister and ratt. i like them and quiet riot. then hubs goes do you remember dio?? i was like ohhh ya. dang that was years ago. we were pretty softer compared to you though!! LOL then i found out he liked metallica, i was like awesome!! dude way cool!! we did have something in common!! unlike everything else we have in common, right?? LOL tabor totally loves alice cooper!! LOL he's totally a freak!! LOL ok, tomarow i should be getting my seeds in the mail. i am so excited. i think i might grow them on my porch, LOL then it'll be pretty much protected AND it'll be full sun!! LOL and sfg!!! my hubs will think i'm nuts, but ummmm... what's new???? LOL i'm like always nuts anyhow!!! LOL then when my gh is done, i'll grow a bunch of stuff in there, and it's gonna definately be protected!! LOL LOL talla call's the males from the 80's she's, ROFL!!! its so funny!! so hubs had to tell her that they were he's!! LOL Hee Hee she thinks only girls have long hair!!! LOL **just chuckling** i am definately tired!! geeze!! to much capicino!! i knew they were bad for me!! hubs just got me started back on them again, Bad medo!! Bad Medo!!! No More!!! LOL granny!! them are some great pics!! i can't but can believe that you painted them pics!! i can because you have a tremendous eye for the garden and make it look just great so it doesn't surprise me that you can paint that great!! ~Medo

Here are a few links to alternate plans to check out and think about. As you look at plans, think about how you could modify what's there to meet your needs. Not wild about the bedroom sizes, but nice layout: - http://www.mascord.com/plan_details.asp?PlanID=1149B&PlanGraphicID=4985&np=true Option for a basement, open floorplan, decent sized bedrooms: - http://www.garrellassociates.com/floorplans/high-country-cottage-08141 Don't like the garage being so far from the kitchen, but otherwise a nice plan: - http://www.garrellassociates.com/floorplans/high-country-cottage-08141 A little unique, but nice: - http://www.garrellassociates.com/floorplans/diamond-creek-cottage-07440 Probably the one I like the best on this site, but I would make the island completely parallel to the angled wall with the range on it: - http://www.garrellassociates.com/floorplans/crested-butte-08070 If you could swing ~2000sq ft, this one might work--you could push the dining room back flush with the front door, then close off the doorways from the foyer and family rooms and make that a large laundry room. You could then make the current laundry room a nice large walk-in pantry. One of our neighbors built this one as shown in the plan and it was beautiful and seemed to flow well. - http://www.frankbetz.com/homeplans/plan_info.html?pn=3896 Here's another you could modify-make the dining room a den/office/potential 3rd bedroom on main floor & leave upstairs unfinished: - http://southernlivinghouseplans.com/plans/SL1746 Hope these help!

Well once again THANK YOU everyone for all the helpful, supportive advice and comments! The dry bathtub idea is great and the DREMEL has my dh smiling because he always wanted one to play with, now it will have a duel purpose! Mazer you took Lucy's name to Lucyfer, and I think I am going to use LucyFUR!!! My daughter will be so pleased that the name is so well used! Though again, she is a darling puppy and really has an amazing disposition! Those little puppy bursts of energy just hit a minute or two before she sacks out for a snooze! Roobear ~ are there any foods, puppy ones, that do not contain Menadione Sodium Bisulfite? I thought we were doing a healthy choice with the Nutro, Natural Choice which had Lamb meal, Rice Flour, Rice Bran and ground rice as the first 4 ingredients, compared to the puppy chow that starts with Ground yellow corn, poultry bi-product meal, corn gluten meal, and brewers rice? The puppy chow also has those aweful red 40 yellow 5 and blue 2 food colorings in it? Again, any suggestions are appreciated! I will post her again in a few weeks, with some weight gain and changes in her features and we may just get her breed figured out! (Not that important to know, or we could get a dna test done, but just to see how she turns out will be fun!) **Lab/Pitt/Boxer/Terrier You have all been so great, thanks again :o) Rosie