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calling all zone 4 and lower ponders....questions from a newbie
Comments (12)Here's an Iowan's 2 cents worth: We have a 15' x 20' pond with 3 waterfalls on the north side of the house, totally exposed to any-and-all winter weather. Using a (Walmart) bubbler full time keeps a hole about 2' open at all times. We keep a floating tank heater in the water close to the bubbler's open hole but don't plug it in unless temps are going to be below zero for more than a week-that's our ace in the hole for emergency use only. Our pond is 3' deep except for an area under one of the waterfalls that dips down to 4'. The bubbler is used on the opposite end and is close to a 2' shelf - we didn't want to bother the goldfish at the deep end with the bubbles. I'm going to raise the bubbler line up to about 20" from the surface this winter, I'm thinking it'll keep more surface open that way. Tried running the waterfalls thru the winter but between the ice forming from the cold temps and the north winds blowing the water out of the streams, we don't even blink an eye now when we turn off the falls in November. We can drive to Sioux Falls if we want to see water running under falls in the winter - LOL!! All 50+ fish survive every year. For the first few years of the pond, we did the "keep them in a stock tank in the garage thru the winter" thing until our BEST friends refused to have a "Fish Moving and Dinner Nite". No amount of food or beverages would get them to help catch the fish and carry buckets from the pond to the garage @#@# Here's to a balmy winter and early spring!!!...See MoreCalling all rare tree collectors
Comments (24)I haven’t visited these forums in some time and actually rediscovered this thread doing a google search on some rare plants (go figure). Since we have a lot of trees and not a lot of resources and time to protect them, most of my losses are due to deer/rodent herbivory. Instead of dwelling on all of the plants I haven’t been able to keep alive, I’ll mention the highlights and surprises here. I went go in depth on too many so ask if you want more details and I’ll try to keep an eye on this thread and respond back when I can. I have been in Arizona since May and I’m basing the updates from this past growing season on my mother’s observations. -Strongest growing maple is Acer lobelii by far; arrived as a stick broken in half during shipping en route from Colvos Creek Nursery in Washington state and has grown at least 3 feet a year. It towers over all of the other sticks in my maple collection at about 15 feet. -Acer davidii grosseri hersii (what a taxonomic mess!) is the strongest growing snakebark and a new addition since the original post I believe. I don’t give it any “help” nutrition-wise and it has grown 2 feet each year; excellent striped bark turns crimson with the onset of cold weather and the leaves are a mix of red, orange, and purple in the autumn. From Forestfarm and while they are awesome, I have not yet keyed this plant to confirm its identity; either way, doing awesome for a snakebark in a clay-dominated alkaline soil in an exposed area. -Acer rufinerve gets no fertilization either and has some years where it sits back and grows little, and other where it takes off. Apparently this year it grew over 2’, so it now stands about 8’. Bark is excellent, although it doesn’t change to crimson like some of the other snakebarks. Can occasionally develop minor signs of nutrient deficiency but not a big deal. Leaves are amazing both texturally (coarse) and by color in the autumn, a mix of red, orange and violet. -Acer henryi looks like a Boxelder and grows like one in upstate NY. After a rough time establishing and a nasty bout of sunscald, it now grows about 2’ a year and has excellent red and violet autumn colors, with violet usually dominating. -Acer longipes is notable because I was able to get one through a winter (low -13F) with the only damage due to herbivory. Supposedly sprouted up big time this past summer. Not many experts seem to place much faith in its hardiness and it may have been below the snowline at the time of the low temp. Time will tell. -Acer mandshuricum, Acer triflorum, and Acer maximowiczianum all suffer through chlorosis. A. triflorum does the worst, A. maximowiczianum the best. A hybrid from Forestfarm between A. pseudoplatanus and A. griseum has done very well, with violet-backed leaves and red fall color. Hybrid vigor and no cold or soil issues. -Acer oliverianum is starting to pick up steam and has yet to be damaged by temps as low as -16F. Might be benefiting from the protection of a nearby hedge. Fall color is usually reddish-orange; it is deeply shaded. -Calycanthus raulstonii ‘Hartlage Wine’ is a huge success. Massive flowering in the second year and completely hardy. Grows very fast and gets leggy unless trimmed. Flowers are gorgeous and large, with virtually no scent. Numerous visitors that have seen the plants have subsequently scoured google for a dealer. The intense color has even drawn some hummingbirds. Seedless. Highly recommend. -Magnolia grandiflora ‘Bracken’s Brown Beauty’ gets defoliated by about January when the truly consistent cold temperatures begin. This about the time that the soil freezes for good as well, limiting the plant’s ability to care for the leaves no doubt. At times, it looks like a fancy houseplant with shiny green leaves growing amongst the snow. No cold-dieback although it is not yet established and grows only about 6 inches a year max so far (haven’t got an update for this past season yet). It is late to leaf out in the spring. -Have a Stewartia malacodendron that apparently did very well in a shaded and very rich sand lens in a protected area that gets partial shade. It is big enough to be above the (likely) snow line and I will be very, VERY interested in seeing if it overwinters. Perhaps more updates later (and as I receive them!)...See MoreJune 4th, Louisville Plant Swap, Roll call
Comments (39)Ok, Iris Goodman is dug for Tina and Nance with probably some left over. Daylily Magic Quest is dug for Nance (Nancy and Kilngod/Tina there are 2 BIG hunks and one HUGE hunk for anyone else who might want some. With care these will bloom this year as they are budded. I dug 3 nice starts of Yucca Bright Edge. Anyone want one? Off to dig NO ID Red Daylily (Nance)and the red peonies (Tina). Anyone else anything I have listed so far? Can/will also dig NO ID #5 Tall bearded iris and bearded iris Honey Glazed. It is shorter one. NO ID #13...white TB with a yellow beard NO ID #19 which is a peachy pink that is a reliable rebloomer. NO ID #6 I'll only dig if I have requests. Anyone else need those?...See MoreHoya Collector Ready to trade/sell My Plants are all over 2 years old
Comments (15)Yes, I bought a bunch of shells to start mostly Dischidias in and I just drill a hole at the bottom. But interestingly, some shells are VERY hard and thick and difficult to drill! Others just take a second or two. The challenge is finding some kind of wire to use to hang the shell with - I'm working on that. You can put air plants (Tillandsias), Dischidias, small Hoyas (I have a hueschkeliana in one; picta would be excellent in one as well...) Nice thing is that you can hang them anywhere - if you have a few inches between some plants, hang one of these little works of art. Denise in Omaha...See Moretanpexoctics Willis
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