My ownroot has given me exactly one bloom so far. I was surprised how similar the that bloom is to Floral Fairy Tale. No, I do not recall it being pankcake flat fully open.

Wow Gillian, that's gorgeous! How's the fragrance?

Thanks all.

Gillian, now that's a rose! a beauty!

Moses

It looks exactly like my Floral FT, which is not fragrant.

Mine should have a good round of blooms soon, I hope to share photos . Interesting Diane and farmerduck ! I just received floral fairy tale from Ru . Good to know for placement

Hi everyone!

Moses, I'm glad the pictures helped :) it is lovely!

Karen, the first set of blooms had a fresh scent, slightly fruity, but not much. The second set should be open tomorrow, so I'll get a better idea of the scent then :)

Diane & Farmerduck, is t that odd? Floral FT is one I don't have, this one is definitely scented, so hopefully I didn't get sent the wrong rose! :)

Lilyfinch, you will love it! Look forward to your photos :)

If Bliss and other ADR roses from Kordes and others, start to gain momentum, which I believe they will, the English, Austin type cupped/quartered roses could be superseded by them simply because of their ADR qualifications of disease resistance and winter hardiness.

My three year young Kordes Earth Angel, has outperformed any Austin I have ever grown. Flower form, amount of bloom, fragrance, incredibly long bloom life, upright non-nodding stems or flowers, no blackspot, and tip winter hardiness without protection put it light years ahead of any of my Austins.

Moses

Ah but Moses, the key issue is whether Kordes can effectively market their roses as effectively as the Austins. It's gotten so that even non-rose gardeners know to ask for Austins when they want big petal-filled blooms, but I'll wager relatively few of them have heard of Kordes. Getting the Kordes roses into the mass market in places like Lowes (in more places than they currently sell - we don't have any Kordes at our Lowes) is critical to this process of superseding the narrow emphasis on Austins. Austins do well for me, but as a class Kordes do better.

Cynthia

Moses- I also have Bliss from Palatine. She is stunning and already on her second set of buds. Mine had quite a bit of scent. First year planted though so I don't know about winter hardiness. My own root from J&P died over the winter but they shipped very late, end of September which I was pretty angry about. That's way too late for Massachusetts planting. I overwintered the pot in the ground but she didn't make it although Kiss Me Kate did well. I hope Bliss is winter hardy because she is beautiful although I like the scent of Earth Angel and Summer Romance better.

I love DA's too. My Windermere is almost always in bloom, is very winter hardy and pretty much disease free. Heritage is also very healthy here. Queen of Sweden is hardy and as a plus her stems never nod for me. No scent though.

The rose I love best though for beauty and scent has to be Princess Charlene de Monaco. She's taller though if that's an issue. One flower scents the whole garden. So far very healthy and putting out her second flush. New this year though so I don't know about winter hardiness but she's rated for z5. So far she's a keeper.

sharon

Sharon, how tall does the princess get for you?

Farmerduck, She's new this year bought as a potted rose. She was about 3.5 feet tall on her longest cane. My Bliss was grafted Palatine planted this spring. Her longest canes were maybe about 2.5 feet. She's just as developed as Princess Charlene but seems more squat. Both are very full though and are very healthy. I prefer Princess Charlene over Bliss for scent. Both of their flowers are equally gorgeous but Princess Charlene's scent is amazing. I have Nahema and she doesn't hold a candle to the Princess in the scent department.

sharon

Ah, darn. I passed up Princess Charlene de Monaco...I thought she'd be too tender for zone 5...yep, there it is. The pain of regret.

i agree that the Kordes are wonderful Moses, sadly, not very many people have heard of Kordes roses in my area. They'd certainly need to hype up Kordes roses outside of the Rose community to reach what DA has achieved.

Most people around here only grow the Explorer/Parkland roses, i seldom see Austins, none the less Kordes, or any others in people's gardens. If it's not tip hardy, and requires work, a lot will bypass it. When you drive around here, you see a lot of Landscaped yards, you know, one tree...a few hardy shrubs, and a couple hostas, that have turned brown, because they're in blazing full sun.

If only I could sneak in people's yards, plant a rose and run away.

I love reading these threads! I have had the best results with Palatine roses. I planted earth Angel, Cinderella fairy tale, and summer romance together in a group last year and over the summer they shot up to six feet. Summer Romance has the strongest fragrance. I want to grow Bliss too. Can’t wait to see how they do in spring and summer this year.

My Summer romance, so tall she’s almost climbing a bit I’ll prune her down today hoping that will encourage bushier growth.

The fragrance is strong and dreamy!! I would really love to plant a hedge of these!

Beautiful. I love this rose. Where do you live that you have roses blooming? It's easy to add this info to your name, btw! ; )

Wow that Bliss is gorgeous!

I love my Earth Angel. The first time it bloomed it was like boiled egg color and so barfy looking, I almost got rid of it and I never get rid of anything! People said, " Wait, give it a chance" I am so glad I did. It blooms constantly, with the prettiest baby pink blooms.

I also love PCdM. So much I have 3 now. Very similar in appearance to Abe Darby.

EA and PCdM are both disease free here in black spot hell.