The nice thing about Heuchera, is that fast TC process gives you a mature plant in 3-4 years quite easily. The hybridizer and grower understands what the plant is going to do before it hits market. Year 5 is release. USUALLY it is longer than that, but in the best case when you have a definite winner it can be that quick. While it is very much possible to get hundreds of thousands in 40 months, that's almost never the case. It's always a limited release the first year or 2. At my last job I was the buyer and grower, trust me, it's a TOTAL PITA securing new varieties. Heuchera are easy to grow and IN GENERAL (lets face it, there are always exceptions) all varieties prefer a certain set of growing conditions. So there isn't this terrible need to trial them nationwide for gardenworthiness. Much like hostas, or daylilies... easy to grow if you give them the right conditions. The problem comes in that the gardening public isn't always educated correctly. Not a dig against the gardening public, education is OUR (horticulturists collectively- I do my best) responsibility. Sometimes we do a bad job (IMO my industry failed miserably with the whole hybrid Echinacea thing, and those were definitely a long trial time, despite what people might think). Terra Nova has done a pretty good job with giving what species are in a given variety's background. If it has strong villosa breeding you know it's going to tolerate more heat and humidity and heavier soil. If it is mostly micrantha, it will probably suffer in winter in the far north and in high heat/drought. But in general, Heuchera want gritty soils. They like excellent drainage, period. Even villosa, pubescens, and americana (woodland dwellers) derived varieties really appreciate a gritty soil. The whole Limerock Ruby Coreopsis thing is a whole other story... basically 1 nursery making an entire industry look like Aholes with a capital A by NOT trialing a plant and giving false information about hardiness. It's still hard to sell new Coreopsis, despite some of them being bigtime winners. 2 great ones: Route 66 and Star Cluster. The Plant Geek www.confessionsofaplantgeek.com www.botanophilia.com www.facebook.com/botanophilia

This is better, very very nice haul Lyndi. Michael's again hey; I see the tell-tale yellow tags, oh how thrilled I was to see those last year after my online dealings with Michael, and AQIS gassing! I have a N silvomontana (got it right this time!) but not from Michaels, and it is same as yours. I also see a N marmorata variegata hidden in your pile. I do love this plant. When it matures, the white variegation stands out beautifully. Although I have been told by an Aussie 'expert' breeder and importer that it can throw quite a lot of alo-marginata pups. Mine has not puped yet. And as for navioides...I will only dream about that.

Steve, I do this with Gulf Frits when I am curious about a new Passiflora. For example, I have this entire 'wall' of Passis. Last year, something weird happened while we were on vacation (we think the strange kid next door did something while HIS parents were on vacation during the holidays-big party and all that) and anyway, my passis just died. I mean, kaput. So, hubby said, "Let's order some new ones-some unusual ones, and see if the GFs will go for them." Before even planting them in the ground, I would offer a leaf to a caterpillar and watch and wait. IF the larva could handle it and pupate successfully, the plant went in the ground. I kept the small containers out for the butterfles to 'peruse' as well. Now, my wall is lush again. But, it was a good way to determine what did and didn't work. The same went with citrus plants. Although we have two orange trees in our backyard and a lemon, never have I ever found a GST egg on the lemon. Nope, nary a single one! At the nursery I would find eggs on the Mexican lime so I went and bought a Mexican lime plant. :)

I heard back from the tech support people at Houzz. Their advice for the IE browser problem: reset your browser by clearing history and cache then reopening. I will try that and let you know how it works after I manage to grab my computer son and get him to show me how to do that. : ) Thank you, bayarea_girl, for that info about Windows 10. I guess I might as well go ahead and add it to my computer. They keep sending me messages about it, but I've ignored them--out of sheer laziness. Didn't want to be bothered by having to learn how to use it. But it is evidently time. Out of curiosity, I'm trying the Houzz Photo button and see if it works for me. Hey, it works. OK--now I have two new ways to post pics. This is good! Thanks for that help, Sutekesh. (That is a pic of the mini-rose Sweet Diana, for the curious. ) Kate