There's a fantastic story on the mix up of 'Catherine Neal' and 'Super Purple'. Jack Carpenter wrote a long explanation of the sequence of events that lead to the mixup but here's the reader's digest version as quoted from Jack's story... "That next spring when I visited Jean's garden one morning and was looking at her lovely seedlings and the things she had brought back from Bob Dove's place in Pleasanton, I noticed my CATHERINE NEAL blooming among the things she brought back from Bob Dove's place. I asked Jean to come over to see the flower and asked her what flower that was to which she replied it is your CATHERINE NEAL. I asked her to see how it was marked and she read the sign label on it- it said SUPER PURPLE! She said the label came from Bob's place just as it was marked. She said that is not SUPER PURPLE! SUPER PURPLE is over here. She took me to another spot where she had some more of his things growing and there was another purple growing there labeled SUPER PURPLE just as it had come from Bob's place and it was not the same as my CATHERINE NEAL. What seems to be apparent from all of this is that two different lilies were marketed under the name SUPER PURPLE. Bob must have had a mix up in his garden is what I suspect." Interesting stuff. Mistakes make great stories.

cleo, i use a sharpie and write directly on one or two of the leaves. it shouldn't wear out if you are going to trasplant them within the next month or so. maryanne

Jeri, Please don’t consider your input nit picking I welcome it. Only by pointing out corrections to these rose lists will it better serve there primary purpose. While I encourage corrections, e-mail is preferred as listed in header. Will do my best to answer some of your questions. “Irene Watts” is a Hybrid China 1896; it was changed and has to be exhibited as “Pink Gruss an Aachen” a Floribunda as the >>>>> indicates, similar to many other rose changes on the list. It’s also shown in the Floribunda class, as “Pink Gruss an Aachen” helping avoid any confusion. “Glendora” in the Hybrid Perpetual class should have had >>>>> indicating to See: “Joasine Hanet”. “Joasine Hanet” a Portland without the date 1882 but >>>>> indicated an addition to the name was missing. On subject of “Joasine Hanet”, In today’s May 2005 list of supplements to the 2005 “AEN”, I have “Joasine Hanet” listed as missing a DQ rose indication in the latest AEN, the entry should be DELETED. Working off two lists, ended up with “Joasine Hanet” and “Johasine Hanet” data, the latter of which is listed as a DQ in the 2005 an AEN. Another rose to DELETE is Pam’s Pink a “Found” rose that was to be removed from the 2004 list. I could not find “The Portland from Glendora” in the 2005 AEN, but there was a “Portland from Glendora” See; “Joasine Hanet”. Without knowing your involvement in roses, if you just like to grow roses or are also involved in exhibiting them. If you just grow roses, the information on the garden web forum will keep you posted on corrections and some of the new roses introduced. If you exhibit roses, there are rules and regulations everyone must follow. One rule has to do with the using the correct names of a rose. This is where the 2005 Official List of Approved Exhibition Names “AEN’s” comes in. It is one of the official ARS publications, which judges and exhibitors use to verify a roses name. Released in March, is supplemented each month with information from ARS publications until the next years AEN is published. Not every one that exhibits roses belongs to “ARS” and receives ARS latest publications. This is one reason for listing the new names of roses on the GW Forum and keeping these posts up front where others can benefit from them. Once posted to, moves the post down the line. Ron Schwerdt 5-31-05

I just got my mist bed up last week already have probably 40 cuttings in and will do more soon. I would love to help save this rose for you and of corse maybe I'll have one for you soon I can send later this summer. Not to toot my own horn but I tend to have high success rate when rooting, feel free to email me let me know.