Thanks for the suggestions. The problem with microwave under upper cabinets is depth. I think there's only a few micros on the market that fit in 14" deep cabinets and of course they're small. I know you can with deeper upper cabinets on the left side only, but that throws off the symmetry

Good idea on the range but I don't care for ranges

I have a spacious island going in so there's plenty of counter space and room for a microwave but I prefer to have it higher off the floor so that's the draw of the wall oven/mw combo.

Downsides identified so far:

Next to stairs and not close to the fridge, which is on the right wall and past the sink, about 5 ft.

Not much usable counter space on either side, but the island has lots of counter space

Before you commit to an undercounter wall oven, go to a showroom where one is installed correctly and try to use it.

Wall ovens installed under the counter are much lower than ovens in a range -- in fact, the doors of some of them barely clear the floor when open! When we redid our Kitchen, we had originally planned on an undercounter oven -- until our Kitchen Designer showed us one! We were shocked at how low it was! Needless to say, we nixed the idea immediately!

The other thing to consider is that some wall ovens say you cannot install them under a cooktop. If you do (and some people do ignore the installation instructions), you will most likely void the warranty for the oven and, possibly, the cooktop.

For a microwave -- a microwave drawer will work under the counter, but not a standard microwave.

Could you please post a 2-dimensional overhead view of the entire layout of your Kitchen (with full measurements)? It will help everyone who is commenting.

I Here's the proposed layout, modified to place the oven/micro to the left of the cooktop (no countertop). This results in less countertop space on that wall but I think we make up for it with the island and have better ergonomics with the oven/mw.

The oven/cooktops I've looked at Bosch/Jenn-air/Thermador are all spec'd for a oven under the cooktop as long as it's the same brand for both. It's a very close tolerance at 7/8" (Bosch) between bottom of cooktop and top of oven. This has the oven sitting 4 3/4" off the floor. You're not going to hit the floor with the handle but I get your point about it being lower. My neighbor did the exact configuration and it looks great. Truth is, I'd prefer not to have it under the counter but I'm dealing with the constraints of a smallish kitchen. I would like to see if I can put the oven/micro on the wall, to the left of the cooktop and was hoping for some feedback on that configuration.

Why not just a range with an oven instead

Yes, it does seem if you're willing to go the cooktop+under-counter-wall-oven then a range is just as do-able and much easier to accomplish.

As for mounting/storing the microwave under the upper cabinets, it's true the depth is an issue; solution is to have deeper upper cabinets. For example, there's a few posts talking about having some 18" deep upper cabinets, which is is deep enough to fit a micro that would normally go over a stovetop

@Patricia I don't care for ranges. Food always seems to get stuck in between the range and the countertop. And drips/spills etc. I should have stated that initially.

Is there anything wrong with a the oven to the left of the cooktop? As I see it:

Pros:

Oven and microwave at a much more usable height.

No contention for oven when someone is at cooktop.

Cons:

Oven/MW farther from fridge

An induction range can be installed tightly. Like this Bosch 800. . . .Here

I looked at the Bosch range. It's far more cost effective but I still don't care for the look.

Look at the Miele then.

Work with the space to get the best function and design. A compromise.

Have you considered a 27” wall oven and microwave?

@dan18888 what problem are we solving with a miele range if I don't like ranges?

@Sammy not yet. I think I have space for a 30". I would have to figure out what I wouldn't be able to cook in a 27" and what brands makes them. I will take a look though

@andrewrxxx I am thinking of doing the same. I am curious what you came up with?

I went with a range. A benefit is there's no seam in the countertop as I would have had with a cooktop. I love it. Wall ovens would have been too cramped in my layout but they are nice. Also nice not to have a countertop seam.

Hi, I read the post and the comments with interest since I also try to have a cooktop and an under counter wall oven. I also don't like ranges for the same reasons you mentioned even though a range would be more space-efficient. Then I was surprised you ended up getting a range. I don't understand what you mean by having to have a countertop seam with cooktops. Could you explain? Thanks.

I had a 30" wall oven under a ceramic cooktop. Suboptimal. It was small and extremely low to the ground. When I replaced that cooktop / wall oven combo with a beautiful 30" induction range 20 years later, I gained a much larger oven, plus a same-width little oven under the huge oven (like a drawer under an oven but it actually could bake to 350 degrees) and six inches of free space around the cooktop, which I trimmed to match the shaker cabinets on either side. It looked fabulous, sleek yet traditional becuase I had a classic beadboard wooden range hood over the range.

I should add that I had about 1/4" of clearance on either side of the range. Very tight fit. The quartz counter tops were installed perfectly and of course, no seam around the range because there was no countertop along the back edge. Beautiful!