Where is Melania?

Vith

Amid intense media scrutiny, the official FLOTUS Twitter account released a
statement on Wednesday to assure the public of Melania's welfare.

However, the plan seems to have backfired.

"I see the media is working overtime speculating where I am & what I'm
doing," the account tweeted. "Rest assured, I'm here at the @WhiteHouse w my family, feeling great, & working hard on behalf of children & the American people!"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/off-tone-melania-trump-tweet-202914517.html

---How much do you want to bet that Melania didn't tweet this, I feel like it's a Trump tweet.

---"No way Flotus wrote this," wrote one user. "This is even more concerning, imo (in my opinion). We, the people, demand to SEE @FLOTUS!"

The message even spurred some to question if the first lady was being "held captive" inside the White House.

---Sorry Melanie oops I mean Melania but you didn't write this tweet. Nice try @WhiteHouse@FLOTUS blink twice if your being held captive. #blinktwice

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THOR, Son of ODIN(2)


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CindyMac(8b)

Not her writing style.

Looks like she's staying behind at the WH this weekend. Not accompanying hubby to Camp David.

ETA: For those speculating on a facelift ... everything I'm reading says 2 weeks, not 6-8. Seriously doubt that's it. If she wanted cosmetic surgery she would have done it before moving to Washington. Clearly something else is going on.

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momj47(7A)

Still missing

And I agree, she didn't write that tweet.

Off-tone Melania Trump tweet sparks serious concern for her welfare

The off-tone tweet caused some Twitter users to worry about the first lady's welfare and demand answers to why she hasn't been seen in weeks.

Most people, however, seemed to agree on one thing — they want photographic proof before they're willing to accept that FLOTUS is ok.

Has Mr. Trump locked her in the Lincoln Bedroom

Did he punch he in the face?

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mayflowers

I read somewhere that her aides were seen in the hospital in the days afterwards wearing scrubs, which wouldn't be necessary for the procedure she was said to have had.

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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23)

As far as I'm concerned, she can hide out if she wants to. To think she is being held captive somewhere seems a stretch. Just another WH diversion.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

She's so embarrassed she doesn't know where to put her face.

Her husband is a philandering pervert and that must make her feel awful.

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matthias_lang

Has he threatened her with deportation if she makes waves?

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Isn't it almost spooky how married couples can grow to be so alike?

But seriously, her being out of sight for an extended length of time like this does seem to suggest a procedure on a part of her body that cannot be hidden.

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ann_t

I hope she left him. And took Barron with her.


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maifleur01

Given the time she was in the hospital and the reports of scrubs something much worse was probably found. Wishing her full recovery and a quick divorce after her husband is out of the WH so she can enjoy the rest of her life. I have read that there are supposedly exits which are blocks away from the WH so she may be using them for access to the needed treatments. All speculation of course.

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donna_in_sask(2b)

What's the recovery time for plastic surgery? That would be my guess, we'll know for sure when she makes an appearance.

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maifleur01

donna if the reports of scrubs is true she has a medical problem much worse than plastic surgery.

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deegw

Normal White House protocol has been pretty much thrown out the window with this first family. But I would be surprised if she had extensive elective cosmetic surgery while living in the White House.

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purrmich _6

I dont care what she had done. Its game playing for her not to make an appearance. Who stays indoors for weeks at a time?

I expect extremely little of her but an appearance every so often. This reminds me of slapping donny's hand away. Coarse behavior, in public. She's got an attitude problem.

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chijim

She's probably getting the Martha Mitchell special

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I hope the reason for no public appearances by Melania has nothing to do with her physical health.

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Pidge

I do, too, Nancy. I would not like to hear that she is seriously ill.

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ann_t

I don't see why she should have to make a public appearance if she doesn't want to.

She is a spouse. She isn't a paid employee.

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rhoder551 zone 9b-10

She might be dealing with something medical that cannot be exploited by her husband for political points.

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mrskjun(9)

"She's so embarrassed she doesn't know where to put her face.

Her husband is a philandering pervert and that must make her feel awful."

Who knows. Maybe she'll run for president....a couple of times.

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ann_t

Poor Mrsk. She can't help herself. Just can't get Hillary out of her head.

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Pidge

Melania can't run for president. But you know that.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

Who knows. Maybe she'll run for president....a couple of times.

Why not? We've already had the pervert. Now we can have the nudie model.

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purrmich _6

She is a public figure. Its not what she has to do, its what's within the norm to do.

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artemis_ma

Maybe she just needs a break. Let it go, okay?

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momj47(7A)

She can’t run for president, kjun, because, unlike Barack Obama, she wasn’t born in the US

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ann_t

Purrmich, why should she expected to do what is in the norm when her husband "Tweetle-Dumb" doesn't do anything within the norm.

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purrmich _6

They're married but hopefully that doesnt mean they share a personality.

So many ways she could show a little class. Easiest is a kind tweet, thanking people who are concerned. Hiding in the WH or wherever she's gone shows a lack of common manners. Unless she's truly ill.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

Unless she's truly ill.

Actually (and I hope it's not the case), but I was wondering if she is truly ill and maybe that is the reason she is lying low. Maybe she is undergoing some kind of treatment. It's unusual she has not been seen and the tweet was written by her husband (you can just tell).

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Campanula UK Z8

asked for a divorce so he has blacked her eyes

# bully

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Lindsey_CA

"The media is working overtime" is a phrase that #CadetBoneSpurs has tweeted a dozen times or so. No way did Melania write/send that tweet herself.

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Ziemia(6a)

Eamon Javers (WH correspondent for CNBC) tweeted a few days ago about seeing her in the West Wing. Surprising that he is the only one saying that and it's been ignored generally).

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

OK. Well then the mystery is solved. She is embarrassed by her husband's visit to the porn star after she gave birth and doesn't want to show her face. I would have had a different reaction that would have involved a return to NY and changing the locks.

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mrskjun(9)

Poor ann_t. I didn't even mention Hillary's name but you recognized the philanderer?

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mrskjun(9)

jz, I wouldn't have suspected that you would be that judgmental of a woman. I'll admit, I'm surprised.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

k, you have to admit that mel's hubby is a jerk.

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clearwaters

I think she had a kidney transplant. She was seen welcoming home the 3 hostages and then she disappeared. I think that's what all the secrecy was.

She'd have been on the list. When the call comes you go or risk losing out on a matched organ.

That would account for the length of stay in the hospital. If I'm right, she'll be MIA at least through June. She cannot risk any sort of infection.

This is just speculation on my part. No need to agree or disagree.

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marquest(PA zone 6)

I would not think she is sick because the thing in the WH would milk that issue.

No one has seen her and since the text sent under her name is not her text she is not talking to him.

I am going with.....left him and agreed not to divorce him until he is out of the office.

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Lily316

I said in a missing post that I don’t care where she is as long as I’m not paying for it. You would think her hideous husband would say something other than she’s looking out the window.

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mrskjun(9)

jz, I'll admit he's a jerk, a good president, but still a jerk. But Melania did not run for office, she is not an elected official, and whatever she did to earn a living, she did. She doesn't deserve anyone's condemnation, and most especially from people who call themselves feminists.

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momj47(7A)

jz, I'll admit he's a jerk, a good president, but still a jerk.

Sorry, kjun, but jerks don't make good presidents

Jerks don't make good anythings, except sodas

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althea_gw

I don't think she wrote the Tweet either.

The best guess I have heard is that it was discovered through all of the investigations that Melania has been an Eastern Block spy all along which accounts for all sorts of things in her life, including her current marriage to that awful man. A well placed mole can be a real asset. She is likely in a witness protection program.

Until we know for sure ...


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Lily316

Jerk would be the kindest word ever said about him. Try narcissistic sociopath.

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ann_t

"jz, I'll admit he's a jerk, a good president, but still a jerk."

Too funny. Could the bar be set any lower for the President of the United States?

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Kathy

Althea....did you see the movie Red Sparrow?

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Ann

Too funny. Could the bar be set any lower for the President of the United States?

I was thinking about the low bar for many comments on this thread. I'm not sure it could be set lower. It's a pathetic read.

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lily316

This is kinda serious now. She didn't go to the wreath laying, and she didn't go to Camp David and neither did the kid. It showed Plastic Barbie and Ken and Tiffany marching out to the helicopter. No Melaina . She's either ill, had a facelift (after all ,he likes them young and she's nearing 50) or left him. That would be real fodder.

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mrskjun(9)

Sure thing ann_t. If the press covered for Trump like they have presidents in the past, you would have never heard that access Hollywood tape. You would never have heard of the existence of Stormy Daniels. You would hear every day that there is no evidence of collusion. The beautiful and gracious Melania would be resting comfortably recouping from her time in the hospital. Read the real story behind JFK and become enlightened.

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jurasico(7)

“Read the real story behind JFK...”

I don’t know, maybe has something to do with US culture and the WORLD changing after over 50 years. Something which “conservatives” tend to not understand.

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Rina

The fact that JFK was a jerk doesn't make the current president any less of a jerk. Irrelevant.

I do like not to see venom directed at Melania for reasons as petty as her modelling career. If she does anything really bad, then fair enough. But there's no evidence of that, I think. I am concerned for her welfare, and particularly hope she is not seriously ill. But certainly her husband could be dealing a lot better with this situation. I think people are genuinely worried about her.

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jurasico(7)

“Melanie” was actually smuggled out of the WH by the Deep State and Illuminati and is currently living with the Obamas in a bunker until it is safe to return to public life.

Here is the proof.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-met-melania-trump-missing-huppke-20180531-story,amp.html

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ann_t

"Sure thing ann_t. If the press covered for Trump like they have presidents in the past, you would have never heard that access Hollywood tape. You would never have heard of the existence of Stormy Daniels. You would hear every day that there is no evidence of collusion. The beautiful and gracious Melania would be resting comfortably recouping from her time in the hospital. Read the real story behind JFK and become enlightened."


Oh dear, if only we could turn the clocks back 50 years to the good old days when none of this would have been reported.

That would probably make many Cons happy.

Apparently some here like to live by 'what I don't know can't hurt me'.. To them ignorance is bliss.

Just so you all know, just because you don't hear or see something doesn't mean it never happened.

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althea_gw

Kathy, I haven't seen Red Sparrow. Is the lot similar to the Missing Melania theory?

Jurasico, good one! I hadn't considered the real cause of the sinkhole.

Or, maybe she has sought refuge in the Equadorian embassy, where, like Assange, she is cut off from anyone but her lawyers, and they aren't talking.

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chase_gw

It is very odd. She is entitled to her privacy but it's not good when people are left to wonder and guess. If is ill the country would want to know that and be supportive. If she has left him....so be it. Not sure anyone would care much except for the gossip / who could blame her carp.

Have the gossip rags picked up on it ?

ETA If she is ill you would think Trump would stay home with her......


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socks(10a)

No, Chase, you would expect him to ignore her—but you know that! And maybe she’s better off that way.

Pure speculation that she had a kidney transplant, but if she did, it would be a perfect opportunity for dt to promote organ donation since there is a crying need especially for kidneys. Unless she jumped to the front of the line of course.

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momj47(7A)

Why would she need a kidney transplant?

Has she been in kidney failure, on dialysis?

She sure didn't look like it before she went to the hospital.

I'd be more concerned that whatever was done at Walter Reed was done badly, or wasn't successful

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Annie Deighnaugh

In the back of my mind, I'm still thinking botched plastic surgery.

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Kathy

Althea....Red Sparrow is how a girl is trained to be a mole. It may seem far fetched but it is the first thing I thought of when Melania allegedly went missing.

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deegw

But why the masks and scrubs mentioned above? I think that means either an immune system issue or the visitors were being protected from her infection.

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Kathy

Can breast implants cause kidney failure?

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Ziemia(6a)

What masks and scrubs described above?

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vgkg Z-7 Va(Z-7)

Not cosmetic, the root of her kidney problems go back to mr cheatin's hubby never using protection.

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deegw

Ziemia it was mentioned previously in this thread and also reported in the NYT.

"White House aides who were near Mrs. Trump wore blue scrubs in the hours immediately after the procedure, according to a person who saw several of the first lady’s aides at Walter Reed."

Melania's hospitalization

Edited to add - there is no mention of masks in the article but IIRC from my hospital volunteer days that if we had to wear scrubs we had to have masks and gloves too.

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althea_gw

Cait1, if you are following this thread, have your usual sources discussed the Clinton's being involved in Melania's disappearance?

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momj47(7A)

from my hospital volunteer days that if we had to wear scrubs we had to have masks and gloves too.

Everyone wears scrubs now, it's the standard uniform for employees in patient care areas.

Mask are not necessary unless someone is in isolation or the staff member is performing a task that needs to be as clean/sterile as possible.

Gloves are worn as part of Universal Precautions, as much to protect patients as to protect staff.

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deegw

Mom, NYT article talked about Melania's visitors not hospital staff. At the hospital where I volunteered recently (a major children's hospital) I was considered a visitor and scrubs were only required for certain patients. There were huge signs on the doors with instructions.

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momj47(7A)

Mom, this article was talking about her visitors not staff

Yes, I know d_gw, that's who the article is talking about.

Visitors are rarely required to change into scrubs.

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Annie Deighnaugh

The thing is, if it is serious, wouldn't you think the wh would let everyone know so they could benefit from the outpouring of good wishes and thoughts and prayers for the FLOTUS? And give trump an excuse for any of his crazy behavior...sick with worry over his wife? And help prepare the country should it prove fatal?

But then again, with this WH, who knows...

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deegw

momj47, are we both trying to say the same thing? My point is if her visitors were wearing scrubs that is a higher level of protection than a normal visitor would be required to use and would indicate an transmission concern.

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Bunny

A few months ago I visited a friend in the hospital. She'd had successful cancer-related surgery but was fighting a difficult infection. I had to don a gown before I entered her room.

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momj47(7A)

Is Melania's staff still wearing scrubs, now that she's back in the White House?

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deegw

I have not read anything about it. What is your point?

Edited to add - all I was trying to say is that the scrubs on her visitors indicated that her hospital stay was not run of the mill. Other than that, I got nuthin.

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mr1010

Whatever the reason for her absence it's something the WH/Trump is not proud of.

Something that would embarrass him. So that is a huge clue to the possibilities:

- She had a nervous breakdown from all the girlfriend rumors of her husband

- She's in drug Re-Hab - for same reasons as above

- healing from Plastic Surgery

- Needed a Psychological break from husband and went away w/ son and parents

- Is Permanently separating from T, prelude to Divorce

Did I miss anything?

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Ziemia(6a)

Maybe she was a spy and was just uncovered and she's being "dealt with".

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jillinnj

I was thinking about the low bar for many comments on this thread. I'm not sure it could be set lower. It's a pathetic read.

Ann - You often criticize people here for comments you think are unseemly.

Surely your right.

Yet, not once, have I seen you condemn THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES for his choice or words.

Why is that?

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Ziemia(6a)

Or about Trump inserting himself where he really doesn't belong.

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Joaniepoanie

The thing is....how long can the WH dodge her whereabouts? The longer it goes on, the worse it looks all around, but I dont expect this WH to be truthful about anything so we may never know. I just hope the taxpayers aren't footing the bill for her to live elsewhere again.


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mayflowers

My guess is she's at Trump Tower or Mar-a-Lago recuperating from something other than a kidney embolization. There's plenty of staff at both places to look after her.

Remember that odd 24 hour visit she took to Mar-a-Lago last winter without trump? That's a mystery too. I bet there's great plastic surgeons in Palm Beach.

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Michael Ian Black had some very interesting questions & comments on Twitter about this situation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/melania-missing-action-michael-ian-210733719.html?.tsrc=fauxdal

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writersblock (9b/10a)(9b/10a)

I bet there's great plastic surgeons in Palm Beach.

Actually, no. As someone who spends a lot of time there in a working capacity I can tell you that Palm Beachers have some of the worst plastic surgery you ever saw. PB is funny that way. If you're in, you're in and the person everyone goes to, but the people who become THE person are frequently not the best in their fields, even locally.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

I think that if she were ill he would discard her. He would consider it a weakness.

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jillinnj

Seems to me he discarded her quite some time ago.

Aging and an ugly (not looks) human being makes it more difficult to attract 20-somethings, so he hasn't officially discarded her the way he did with the previous wives.

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mr1010

20 something 'poor girls' who would hook up with a so-called rich 70 something man, are a dime a dozen. Plenty of 'em out there. Money is Power.

I also wonder if there was some domestic violence going on in WH. from the bully.

He's shown us how aggressive and angry and raging he can be and M. said when

someone hits him, he hits back 10X as hard. And she must know.



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chase_gw

I think she must be at the WH......I just don't see how a FLOTUS could be somewhere else and no one would know. Especially given Barron is with her.

Their presence anywhere would be fairly obvious ......and the press would be all over it.

None of it makes sense.....especially the secretivness.

If she is ill and Trump left her for the weekend, and worse yet Barron if his Mom is sick , than he is a bigger jerk than I ever thought.

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momj47(7A)

I am not one for conspiracy theories, and so I don’t find the guesses flying around the lefty internet about Melania Trump’s whereabouts particularly convincing. But I am very interested in double standards – and I find it hard to believe that if Michelle Obama disappeared from the public eye for nearly a month that there wouldn’t be some sort of sustained public inquiry.

It’s fun to imagine that Melania – who has been memed endlessly because of her apparent distaste for the president – has finally flown the coop and left her notoriously misogynist husband. And who knows, maybe she has.

But the reasons behind her lack of public appearances are less interesting to me than the fact that we’re so used to bizarre and out-of-bounds behavior from this administration that something like a missing first lady barely makes the grade for news coverage.

Things are weird, my friends. And they’re only going to get weirder.

Source

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war garden

you all are ridiculous the woman just had surgery all you care about is if stick her face out in public. the there is no job of first lady anything she does is ceremonial anyway. she has no government or legal authority. She is just Trumps wife. nothing more. So let her heal and stop conspiracy speculation.

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momj47(7A)

you all are ridiculous the woman just had surgery

She had surgery on May 14. almost three weeks ago

[Melania] Trump had been experiencing an issue with her kidney that her office described as benign but requiring medical attention.

"This morning, first lady Melania Trump underwent an embolization procedure to treat a benign kidney condition. The procedure was successful, and there were no complications,"

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purrmich _6

I think its Melania who is exacerbating and dramatising her situation. She's an adult. Simply tweet a reason or excuse or tell the truth. Not doing anything public is a terrible example for Barron. I never cared either way about her, but the tacky little things like refusing to hold hands with her husband in public and now this. I think much less of her.

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Embothrium(Sunset Climate Zone 5, USDA Hardiness Zone 8)

Who?

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lakeaffect

Maybe Melanie was getting a little too uppity and mouthy, threatening to leave or spill on Trump, and they decided she needed the One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest special, wonder how long that recovery is? Though to be honest, she already looks lobotomized to me, but it could just be her plastic vacuousness on display.

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ojo_sigo

For a full explanation, I suggest Fay Weldon's The Life and Loves of a She Devil.

A woman is so upset her husband's affection lie elsewhere that she undergoes serious surgery to become a replica of the 'other woman'. Disposes of her foe and awaits the return of his affection.

If Ivanka disappears and reappears you heard it here first.

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lily316

She does look lobotomized but who wouldn't being married to that pig.

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queenmargo

lily316

She does look lobotomized but who wouldn't being married to that pig.

That's right!! So many pigs.


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marquest(PA zone 6)

Yes Melania's husband has joined the pigs. I guess you cut the picture he is probably standing next to Bill Cosby. Not like the Obama's a man to be proud of to have had as a president we do not have to add to the pig pic.

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mrskjun(9)

Strange isn't it marquest. Seems our best presidents have been mostly moral slugs, and the worst have been saintly.

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purrmich _6

You'd have a hard time backing that generalization up with facts.

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mrskjun(9)

Really purrmich? I don't think so.

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purrmich _6

There you go. Not an argument.

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maifleur01

I am old enough to remember when holding hands even for married couples was considered PDA and just not done.

As far as the Clinton/Cosby picture relates to the current resident little was known about what they had done until it was on the news. The current resident was known to be of that type long before he ran for office.

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jurasico(7)

tRump is different; lowest of moral slugs and THE worst President EVER! MAGA!!

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marquest(PA zone 6)

mrskjun(9)

Strange isn't it marquest. Seems our best presidents have been mostly moral slugs, and the worst have been saintly.

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No Msk it just takes a google search and you will see the best presidents were Democrats. Better economy, GDP and Growth of any Republican since Truman. I will not bother to post the links because it has been shown here so many times. Which is why people forget vote Republican And Democrats have to clean up behind them. This time the Democrat will have a lot more power thanks to tRump.


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mrskjun(9)

marquest, I didn't say whether they were democrats or republicans. I said they were moral slugs.

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Annie Deighnaugh

If you're just talking about cheating, I really think it's a syndrome that men who live large and seek power tend to do that in all aspects of their life including their sex lives. I don't think it's necessarily correlated with how good a president in terms of economics or policy decisions.

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Sylvia Gordon

But where is Melania?

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momj47(7A)

Is the White House, or Mr. Trump, or Melania Trump playing some sort of bizarre game?

I know Mr. Trump shuts out people who are more popular than he is, so it's not outside the realm of possibility that this is what he is doing to his wife.

But no matter what the reason, her disappearance is troubling.

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lilacinjust

Perhaps Melania is taking the family on a lux vacation like Michelle did. Maybe someone in Spain will spot her.

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Ziemia(6a)

If so, any bets on who's trip was more economical? And on which reimbursed the government?

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foodonastump

Bottom line, whatever the reason, it’s intentional. Either she’s not around or she’s not looking well or someone is playing games. Otherwise she’d just step outside long enough for someone to take a few pictures and be done with it.

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queenmargo

Maybe they just want to see how much cray the left can hock up.

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foodonastump

That would fall under the “playing games” category.

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mayflowers

Toddlers love games!

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Pidge

Nasty cracks from some resident righties. But no empathy for Melania.

Frankly, I think Melania's invisibility is a cause for concern. Something is clearly wrong, and I don't think it has anything to do with plastic surgery.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

I agree with Pidge.

I hope it's only a bad cold, or something equally benign.

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The misdirection from the WH is the most troubling aspect. However, given Trump's problems with Mueller tightening the noose, a manufactured distraction might serve him well.

We cannot trust the WH to be honest about the First Lady. We're not asking for a violation of HIPPA, just a general update.

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momj47(7A)

FWIW, Roseanne Barr has a nice facelift

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lilacinjust

Righties? Lefties are posting notions that Trump killed her or beat her. Seriously.

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mrskjun(9)

We have no idea how serious Melania's medical procedure was. And frankly, it's none of our business. She has not been elected to any position in the government and is in no obligation to keep the public informed. Guess that won't stop the Joy Reids among us.

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lilacinjust

Melania recently responded to the concerns/innuendo/lies/rumors, and said she’s fine. I believe her.

She was not elected into office and is not accountable to the hoards of haters.

Stop with the ginned up hysteria.

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lilacinjust

Same wavelength mrskjun. Jinx!

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foodonastump

Correction - it was written on her Twitter account. No indication that it was written by her, and much speculation that it doesn’t sound like her.

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chase_gw

I just think it's like everything else Trump another self inflicted wound on the communications front.

The fact Barron didn't go wth his Dad and brothers and sisters to Camp David is odd but odder still is why Trump would leave her and Barron and take the rest of the family and go to Camp David if she is ill. Unless it was a family pow wow on how to handle the upcoming divorce and settlement

What is even odder is that his, fan base don't seem to be one bit concerned over where she is or how she is. It's not a nothing burger....something is up and I sincerely hope it's a divorce rather than a serious illness.

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mrskjun(9)

Could be her fan base believes her tweet chase and aren't trying to gin up another nothing burger to be hysterical about.

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lilacinjust

Correction. Melania wrote that post in the first person and are you really insinuating some conspiracy theory here??

OMG. Turn off CNN and MSNBC, and MYOB.

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lilacinjust

There are so many obnoxious narratives from the MSM, but this one is truly deplorable.

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deegw

lilacinjust

Stop with the ginned up hysteria.

mrskjun(9)

aren't trying to gin up another nothing burger ...

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I suggest you keep accusing others of ginning up. That will certainly promote an intelligent conversation about this.

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marquest(PA zone 6)

The concern is not just because she has not been seen. I do not think we saw any FL regularly. We only saw them when they were promoting their project. If this president had not started the arm candy cat walk to the airplane every weekend to their golf course no one would have noticed she was missing. They set that precedent as her FL weekly duties expectations.

If she is anywhere in the world and not in serious condition she can text. It gets really concerning when after almost a month there was a need for a text to appear that obvious was not her.

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mrskjun(9)

marquest, I didn't say whether they were democrats or republicans. I said they were moral slugs.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No Msk you said the GOOD presidents were slugs. Re read your post.

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chase_gw

Fine if you do Mrs....fine if you do. Fine you think nothing is off.

What a hoot Trump supporters think the left is into conspiracy theories !!!!

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mrskjun(9)

marquest, that's exactly what I said. Our best presidents have been moral slugs. I never mentioned whether they were democrat or republican.

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deegw

Poof!

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CindyMac(8b)

What went poof?

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deegw

I wish I could tell you. Someone has it out for me. I'm sure the post come back tomorrow.

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CindyMac(8b)

2 likely suspects.

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ann_t

"Could be her fan base believes her tweet chase and aren't trying to gin up another nothing burger to be hysterical about."

Of course they do. Tweetle-Dumb's fans are gullible. They believe all his lies too.

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Kathy

Maybe she took Barron on a nice quiet vacation? I don’t blame her for not advertising the fact if so. If they say a word the media would find out. The thing is, there is no privacy as first family, so button up for the ride.

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ann_t

There is no way she could be on vacation and it not be reported. And if she is on vacation who cares. The only reason to care is if they try and stiff the American tax payer with the cost of the vacation. Which come to think of it is something Dementia Don would do.

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Ann

Guess that won't stop the Joy Reids among us.

Lol, and some do it every time any possible topic introduces itself. After being on HT for a few years, it's incredibly predictable who will jump all over the gossip.


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queenmargo

Gossip mongers are much like bread makers. They like to get a rise;P

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ojo_sigo

Do bread makers use a black pot or a black kettle? Time for another meme.

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momj47(7A)

Our best presidents have been moral slugs

George Washington?

Abraham Lincoln?

You certainly have a very low opinion of American presidents

Which probably goes a long way to explaining your support for Mr. Trump

You can be confident that your Mr. Trump will not be on the list of "best presidents"


Actually, our worst Presidents have been moral slugs

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foodonastump

Mimi I’ll mind whoever’s freakin business I want.

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ojo_sigo

Not "have been" mom

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queenmargo

Trump will "Be Best" moral slug we have ever had for a president;)

I will take the countries best interest over his personal moral defects;)

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chase_gw

It will be interesting to see if she shows up at the G7. Definitely a "couples" event that all first partners attend....actually it will be interesting to see if Trump shows up

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momj47(7A)

So the RW forum members are reduced to whining about gossip?

My goodness, how much farther down can they go?

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Lily316

Desperation, it ain’t pretty.

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foodonastump

It’s easier than serious responses to the serious issues. America is being dismantled - for real this time - yet the disciples taking every word at face value and pretending there’s nothing wrong. Pathetic.

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ann_t

Will be surprised if trump shows up. If he doesn't it will just prove what a coward he is.

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ojo_sigo

I will take the countries best interest over his personal moral defects;)

Unless, of course, there is a connection between the two - then what?

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momj47(7A)

I will take the countries best interest over his personal moral defects

You do know, I'm sure, that your Mr Trump cares not a bit about this country or it's best interests.

That's probably why you voted for him

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chase_gw

I agree FOAS, America is being dismantled but apparently there are many who don't seem to understand , or refuse to acknowledge what is happening

It is truly frightening how so many are willing to let their long held values go for Trump.......for Trump..that is what is so shocking to me. Abandoning long held values for Trump ??????

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azmom

"I will take the countries best interest over his personal moral defects;)"

First, tell us if you are talking about one country or many countries? What are these "countries"? Russia?

Your statement has at least two flaws:

1. A person who votes for a person with moral defects as the head of state; s/he would not have sufficient judgement to determine what are best for country's interest, and who is best to lead the country.

2. A person who has moral defects, once s/he is being elected, s/he would NEVER put country's interest before his/her own.

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azmom

Why the hype regarding Melania's where about?

As a first lady, she is not an asset but she has generated plenty of liabilities.

There is no loss if she disappears, especially if she never spends another penny of us taxpayers' money.

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mrskjun(9)

As I recall, none of the Trumps are taking a salary while in office.

"According to financial disclosure reports, President Obama has an estimated net worth of $7 million dollars.

Since he was worth $1.3 million in 2007, that makes the millionaire 438% more wealthy than when he first ran for office."


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ann_t

"As I recall, none of the Trumps are taking a salary while in office.

Well then they are getting paid what they are worth.

Don't forget DD is using the office of President to make money at all of his golf clubs and his hotels. He is working for himself not for Americans.

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mrskjun(9)

You bragging ann_t?

"A Forum Research poll released Thursday found Trudeau’s approval rating has fallen to 42% — a significant drop from last November when 58% of respondents gave the prime minister the thumbs up."

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deegw

Do we really want to play the game where we try to figure out which sitting president profited the most during his stay in office? And which one used the most taxpayer dollars for vacations and personal time?

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ann_t

"A Forum Research poll released Thursday found Trudeau’s approval rating
has fallen to 42% — a significant drop from last November when 58% of
respondents gave the prime minister the thumbs up."

And what pray tell does our Prime Minister's approval rating have to do with this thread?

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mrskjun(9)

Well ann_t, you spend an inordinate amount of time telling us how unpopular our president is. I just wondered if it made any difference that Trudeau is at 42% and Trump is at 48%. Does that worry you?

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mayflowers

Trump has never been at 48% except for Rasmussen. He's at 42%.

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purrmich _6

Never have seen ann_t use poll numbers.

The way the rw throws poll numbers around hardly makes those numbers more credible.

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marquest(PA zone 6)

Who cares who is more popular. After trumps election conservatives said the polls are all wrong. Before the election when the economy was improving trump said the figures were wrong because people have stopped looking for work. Conservative say the MSM lie. So why are conservatives arguing POLLS? Why are conservatives believing MSM?

WHERE IS THE FIRST LADY? As it was a concern when Michelle Obama took her children on vacation they wanted to know who was paying. (I am sure your remember your concern about that mrskjun) I want to know where she is and how much of my money she is spending.

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roxsol

Ooh, I love when others mention Justin! I get to show pictures, while kind of staying on topic.

He’s so gosh darn cute. So is Sophie.


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chase_gw

He would make the world's best pool boy!

Have been annoyed with him for awhile now but am happy with the backbone he is showing against Trump and was particularity happy with his very clearly stated disgust with Trump's notion that trade with Canada was a national security issue.

Canadians have laid down our precious lIves to stand by Americans ......the same cannot be said in reverse. We have spilled our blood for the US but not so sure we would ever do it again at least not under this regime

Trump is showing himself to be a very bad ally and not a friend.......and it will come home to roost.

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roxsol

Chase, Prime Minister Trudeau definitely got bonus points from me this week as well!

Maybe there is something more to him (besides his good looks) than I ever imagined. I think he is even cuter when he gets riled up.

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Ann

Trumps average today on RCP is at 44.4. Mayflowers, the last poll that had him at 42 (as you reported) was a single poll 8 places down the list. Which poll are you referring to?

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chase_gw

Well he sure is riled. We may see a little of Daddy in him these next few weeks. Most of us recall that pi$$ing of Pierre got a very definite reaction !!!

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Ann

It is truly frightening how so many are willing to let their long held values go for Trump.......for Trump..that is what is so shocking to me. Abandoning long held values for Trump ??????

Ummm, what specific long held values are you talking about and who is it you think has abandoned long held values? Also, how do you have any idea what anyone else's values are?



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CindyMac(8b)

It really is an obsession with that woman.


As for long held values ... I think those were just a joke. There were none to begin with.

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Ann

I'm off topic of making up stories about Melania? Oh no!!!!!!!

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roxsol

Chase, Justin Trudeau was asked in an interview this week about his late father’s description of the USA being like sleeping with an elephant and feeling every twitch and grunt. He laughed and said that Canada is a moose.

We are a heavyweight too, even if we are outweighed by the elephant, only a moose stands his ground and is much more patient.

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mayflowers

Ann, I looked at the average of polls on Fivethirtyeight.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Since we have wandered into Trudeau territory, is his mother still alive? I think I read something to the effect that she might have been bi-polar. Or were people talking because she had an unconventional life style?

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chase_gw

"Ummm, what specific long held values are you talking about and who is it you think has abandoned long held values? "

I certainly am not speaking of your values Ann. You have made it clear what you are willing to forgo for " results"

I am speaking of the long held values of what " pre Trump " America used to stand for zmong them, honour, truthfulness, integrity, compassion and loyalty to ones allies.

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chase_gw

Nancy, she is still alive and yes she is bi polar and yes she was unconventional.....to say the least.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

Thanks, Chase.

Maybe I'll spend some time reading about her tonight.

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roxsol

Yes Nancy, she is now Margaret Kemper. Yes, she is bipolar. Pierre Trudeau pretty much raised their three boys on his own and was a wonderful father.

They all remained close to Margaret though.

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chase_gw

She is quite the character , her story is very interesting and more than a tad off beat. Justin and his brothers were raised by Pierre , who himself was very unconventional

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azmom

Ann,

"what specific long held values are you talking about and who is it you think has abandoned long held values?"

Surprise you even have to ask.....

First comes to mind of long held American values is Honesty. Your fake president lies at least 6 times per day and trumpesters lie along.

Second comes to mind of long held American Values is taking personal responsibilities, you should know this very well as you blame others for the ill thought out decision and action you took, and deprive others the freedom to make their own decisions.

Do you need more examples?

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momj47(7A)

Isn't it ironic when RW Trump supporters talk about values.

SMH

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azmom

What a breeze of fresh air seeing the cute, respectable, clean couple as the head of states. Really miss President and Michelle Obama.

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foodonastump

Re G7 and the summit:

First lady Melania Trump will not travel with President Trump to the G7 Summit later this week or the meeting with Kim Jong Un in Singapore on June 12.

Stephanie Grisham, the first lady's communications director, confirmed to The Hill that Melania Trump would not join the president for either event. She attended last year's G7 Summit in Italy.

ABC News first reported that Trump wouldn't be attending.

(From The Hill)

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foodonastump

Oh but now this from CNN:

“First lady Melania Trump is expected to attend a White House event on Monday evening to honor Gold Star families, her spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, confirms to CNN.”


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queenmargo

FOAS- what is MSNBC saying?

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Annie Deighnaugh

Ummm, what specific long held values are you talking about and who is it you think has abandoned long held values? Also, how do you have any idea what anyone else's values are?

Well I don't know specifically any single person's values, but I can surmise. For example, national security would seem to be a big RW issue, or they certainly made it seem that way when they were all over hillary for having a private email server. However that value has gone by the wayside when the pres has the russians and NK chief intelligence guy in the oval office and then reveals code level information to them, and stocks his administration with 130 people who are unable to get security clearances.

For example, the RW would seem to have taken the president's word as a serious issue since they hold up obama all the time for the *lie* he told about keep your health plan, keep your doctor. Yet they've clearly given a pass to all the nonstop lying trump and his wh does on a daily basis for any reason whatsoever.

For example, the gop used to be considered the party of law & order and it's no mistake that so much of leadership of the FBI for example is full of gop members. Yet by attacking the FBI and the investigation into russia's interference in the election, and especially nunes &co doing what they can to cover for the president, they have clearly put party ahead of nation and trump ahead of law & order.

For example, fiscal discipline and deficit/debt reduction has been a long held gop value and yet under trump, that value has been blown to smithereens.

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foodonastump

Why’s it matter, Margo? These are coming from her spokesperson. Don’t trust her?

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CindyMac(8b)

Gold Star event is closed to press.

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Kathy

Oops Cindy....I must have been typing when your post appeared. Melania is on the schedule but “we’ll see”, as Trump says.

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queenmargo

foodonastump

Why’s it matter, Margo? These are coming from her spokesperson. Don’t trust her?

Well, then why did you bother with mentioning The Hill and CNN? Sounded like you were channel surfing.

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foodonastump

Well, then why did you bother with mentioning The Hill and CNN? Sounded like you were channel surfing.

Believe it or not, multiple news sources isn’t a foreign concept to many of us.

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lilacinjust

There are so many obnoxious narratives from the MSM, but this one is truly

No one is forcing you to participate in this thread....just scroll on by if it's not your cup of tea.


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foodonastump

And I look across the spectrum, Margo. As I type, Hillary leads on breitbart and bill second from top on fox. Pathetic.

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roxsol

Believe it or not, multiple news sources isn’t a foreign concept to many of us.

The way things are going for you, it just might be though:(

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queenmargo

Believe it or not, multiple news sources isn’t a foreign concept to many of us.

LOL- that is why I asked. Why are you making something out of nothing. It was a joke. I could see you channel surfing and reporting and found it amusing.

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queenmargo

The way things are going for you, it just might be though:(

If the left had their way they would abolish Fox News. With all the left biased MSM, you wouldn't think one conservative outlet wouldn't scare them, but it does. Obama was afraid to appear on Fox, he was afraid of the hard questions. WIMP!

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deegw

never mind ...

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purrmich _6

I find this Melania disappearing act just the epitome of self-centeredness. If she's ill, she an still tweet or even appear. fgs John McCain didn't retreat into a hole with brain cancer, nor Ted Kennedy. And on and on. Just one of the many ways you can take the measure of a person's character.

She may not owe the citizens anything. But, she knows the interest. She's giving this country the finger.

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queenmargo

Maybe the left half of the country;)

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ann_t

Nah, she is just sticking it to her pig of a husband. Since the Stormy story broke she hasn't looked very happy. Or maybe I should say even less happy.


I hope she does show up to honour Gold Star families. Another way of sticking it to Dementia Don.

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Kathy

No public appearances on agenda so far.

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momj47(7A)

Maybe the left half of the country;)

More likely, the right half :(

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momj47(7A)

It appears that Mrs. Trump will not accompany Mr. Trump to Quebec for the G7 meeting or to Singapore for the Korea Summit

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ann_t

Is Mr trump going to show his face in Quebec?

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lily316

It must be nice to be a Canadian and not ashamed of your leader like most of this country is.

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mrskjun(9)

Trudeau has a lower approval rating than Trump. Somebody must be ashamed of him.

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Annie Deighnaugh

Actually, I wouldn't want fox abolished. I think the conservative voice is an important one and has important things to say. I just wish there was a way to require them to tell the truth. It's the lies that do the damage to our country...starting with the name fox *news* when it should be fox *opinion and entertainment*.

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foodonastump

Trudeau has a lower approval rating than Trump. Somebody must be ashamed of him.

All relative. They may have higher standards. (One would hope.)

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mrskjun(9)

Wouldn't it be better if all news outlets only reported the truth Annie?


Link

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chase_gw

I'm certainky not ashamed of him. Unlike Trump, he has done nothing to warrant be ashamed of.However, I have not been happy with his leadership over the last few months particularly the budget.

He will probably get a bump up because he is standing up to the school yard bully as regards trade

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momj47(7A)

Wouldn't it be better if all news outlets only reported the truth Annie?

That would spell the end of Fox "News"

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momj47(7A)

I wonder if Trump expects that he would be indicted if he shot Melania in the Oval Office?

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lilacinjust

Nice to see the lefties being played by Giuliani!

“If he shot James Comey, he’d be impeached the next day,” Giuliani was quoted as saying. “Impeach him, and then you can do whatever you want to do to him.”

On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” for instance, Giuliani framed the pardon question as purely hypothetical and politically implausible.

“It’s not going to happen. It’s a hypothetical point,” he told host Chuck Todd.

Giuliani said nothing about Melania, but since this PATHETIC thread is gasping for breath in its death knells, momj has to put something ridiculous and inflammatory out there.

Melania is fine and is making an appearance today. I hope that if you lefties become ill and undergo surgery that the people around you do not expect you to do kart wheels and perform like a trained animal, lest news of your demise spreads.

When the body is healing, the last thing one needs is to introduce germs and viruses carried by others, if one can avoid it.

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momj47(7A)

Nice to see the lefties being played by Giuliani!

So you are okay with these proclamations??????????????????????????????

Of course Giuliani said nothing about Melania, but if the RW can make ridiculous extrapolations, I guess it's time I made one, too.

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momj47(7A)

Melania is fine and is making an appearance today.

Is she now?

You mean this?

We'll see

It's from CNN, so it's probably fake news, Mimi, you should know that by now

Melania Trump expected to attend Gold Star event at White House

First lady Melania Trump is expected to attend a White House event on Monday evening to honor Gold Star families, her spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, confirms to CNN.

Although the President and Mrs. Trump hosted a similar event last year, the attendance of the first lady at this year's reception will mark the first time she has participated in an official event, either alone or by her husband's side, since May 10 when the first couple greeted freed American prisoners upon their return to Andrews Air Force Base following captivity in North Korea.

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lilacinjust

So you are okay with these proclamations??????????????????????????????


Jeez momj, give your question button a rest! What did it ever do to you?

Do you understand using hyperbole and the meaning of "hypothetical"?

Of course you distorted Giuliani's comment to score some leftie points on HT. Per usual, the lefties put out lies and distortions and IF they make a correction or are forced to apologize, the damage is already done.

So, no, I'm not OK with your lies and proclamations which have no basis in fact.

But congrats on putting yet another pathetic fabrication out there for the haters to devour.

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ann_t

"Trudeau has a lower approval rating than Trump. Somebody must be ashamed of him."

Just the fact that Mrsk, asked that question, makes it obvious that she doesn't know the difference between not agreeing with someone politically and being ashamed.

Well that certainly explains why she supports Dementia.

Justin hasn't cheated on multiple wives, hasn't bragged about grabbing women's pussies, or been accused of rape and sexual abuse. Hasn't disrespected Gold Star Families. Hasn't used his office for personal gain. Is a loving husband and father. Etc, Etc......A good man, whether you agree with him politically or not.

Does make one wonder what more Dementia Don has to do before his followers are ashamed to admit that they support him.

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foodonastump

So, no, I'm not OK with your lies and proclamations which have no basis in fact.

But congrats on putting yet another pathetic fabrication out there for the haters to devour.

Says I, silently, every time I hear the president speak.

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mayflowers

This speculation about Melania reminds me of how trump supporters speculated about Hillary's health when she had pneumonia. You sounded then just like we sound now, mimi--pretty pathetic.

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Pidge

Good one,, FOAS!

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lakeaffect

Disapproving of a leader's policies and practices is very different from being ashamed of that same leader, though speaking personally, with Trump, I am equally and deeply disapproving and ashamed of his leadership, or lack thereof, in every way; thought, ethics, deed, intellect, vision, perspective, strategy, execution, etc., not to mention compassion, empathy, caring and morality.

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graywings123(7)

SHE IS SURFACING! "First lady Melania Trump is expected to attend a White House event on Monday evening to honor Gold Star families, her spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, confirms to CNN."

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momj47(7A)

Do you understand using hyperbole and the meaning of "hypothetical"?

I know what they mean, do you?

And it's all right with you that the president's lawyer uses a threat to murder the former director of the FBI as an "hypothetical" threat"

Oh my gawd

You are allowed to condemn the worst comments of this administration, you know

Or are your Right Wing Though Police watching?

It was troubling enough when Mr. Trump said I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

You would, no doubt, follow your Mr. Trump right to hell, wouldn't you Mimi

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lilacinjust

mayflowers

This speculation about Melania reminds me of how trump supporters speculated about Hillary's health when she had pneumonia. You sounded then just like we sound now, mimi--pretty pathetic.

When did I ever speculate that Hillary was dead? You just proved my point. No basis in fact.

Hillary seems to be a sick woman, has broken bones from a 5-star resort book tour and is now trying to hide a massive back brace with boxier clothing and large Hermes scarves.

That is not speculation!

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Ann

This speculation about Melania reminds me of how trump supporters speculated about Hillary's health when she had pneumonia. You sounded then just like we sound now, mimi--pretty pathetic.

I'd have to go review a thread or threads about Hillary's pneumonia, but if it was like this thread and if I was acting like some here (even some I would have never expected it from), it's more than pretty pathetic.


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lilacinjust

Says I, silently, every time I hear the president speak.

^^^^^^

Like when Trump said that 3 Americans were being released from NoKo?

Like when Trump said NoKo's #2 was coming to Washington to further peace talks?

Like when Trump said he'd decimate ISIS/

Like when Trump said he would move our embassy to Jerusalem?

Credibility. Crapper.

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lilacinjust

Ann

This speculation about Melania reminds me of how trump supporters speculated about Hillary's health when she had pneumonia. You sounded then just like we sound now, mimi--pretty pathetic.

I'd have to go review a thread or threads about Hillary's pneumonia, but if it was like this thread and if I was acting like some here (even some I would have never expected it from), it's more than pretty pathetic.

^^^^^^

So pathetic. We speculated about Hillary's health, but never said she was dead.

Another false narrative.

The fact is, Hillary is not the picture of health and it is very apparent.

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Kathy

Hillary could be wearing a bulletproof vest. Makes more sense.

Back to Melania. Why is she staying so close to home out of the public eye?

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queenmargo

Just maybe Melania does not have the stamina like Trump. Maybe some of the nasty mean things that the biased left leaning press report about her, bothers her. I have a feeling most on HT would fold like a cheap shirt. They can not take the slightest bit of criticism on here without running to the mods. Where is your "empathy" that you guys love to talk about, but rarely exhibit?

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ojo_sigo

If someone in the public eye 'disappears,' and there is no official reason given or that the reason given comes from an unreliable (lying) source, it is normal to speculate, including the death of that person. Having said that the speculation here has mostly been satirical so I fund the outrage unnecessary.

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Ann

Back to Melania. Why is she staying so close to home out of the public eye?

For whatever reason or reasons she chooses, Kathy.


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sunflower_petal(5a)

Melania is not getting paid to be FLOTUS. If she needs to hang back for her mental health for a while, I wish her all the luck in the world for a full recovery one day.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

Just maybe Melania does not have the stamina like Trump.

Well then he will just have to dispose of her. You know what he thinks about weak people (refer to what he said about Jeb! and about Hillary).

Truth is Melania can't stand him and wants out. They are NOT a happy couple. She is doing something that I would do if it happened to me.

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queenmargo

OH Pffft! ojo, so typical to find everything the left does within satisfaction. The left is a cruel mean hateful group when it comes to anything Trump or his family, his friends, his supporters. The left's satire is the left's reality within their own mind.

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mayflowers

I never said you speculated that Hillary was dead, mimi. I must've failed to see where anyone here thinks Melania might be dead. Hillary's current health now is irrelevant. During the election when she fainted at the 9/11 ceremony, the RW and members here used it for political purposes, which is actually more pathetic than being curious about whether Melania really is okay. There are many RW conspiracy theories speculating about other aspects of Hillary's health. Mimi, you yourself have done more than your fair share of speculating about her concussion from years ago and any other health issue that Hillary has experienced. Now you say Hillary is "a sick woman" because she broke some bones. You also seem to be saying she's trying to cover it up with clothing and scarves. Maybe she should parade around in a tank top?

What's fueling this is the doubt since the first announcement of Melania's hospitalization when they said she'd be staying in the hospital for a week after a kidney embolization, which is normally an overnight stay. Since there have been so many lies from this administration, nothing they say is to be taken at face value. That's what happens when you are a habitual liar. Everything is assumed to be a lie, even the rare truth.

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mayflowers

We saw a lot of this during the campaign:


Hillary's Health?

BB GaloreAugust 13, 2016

We know Hillary Clinton suffered a brain clot as a result of
hitting her head during a fall. But is she still having lingering
effects from that injury?

Why has she been photographed on the campaign trail with aides
holding her up while she's making speeches? Why was she apparently
unable to climb a short flight of steps without aides hoisting her up
the steps, holding each of her extended arms? I could dismiss her
coughing fits (I'm sure politicians' throats get sore with all that
speechifying), and even occasionally spacing out or making weird facial
gestures and head tics, but collectively, and in combination with her
occasional inability to remain upright without assistance, I'm left
wondering if she is concealing serious infirmities. If so, it is my
earnest prayer that she regain her health and strength.

I think her supporters have a right to know whether they'd be voting for her, or for Tim Kaine.


https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/4088912/hillarys-health

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mayflowers

Hillary Faints at 9/11 Memorial

BB GaloreSeptember 11, 2016

Hillary left the 9/11 memorial early today. While waiting for
her car to be brought around (it wasn't ready since she left ahead of
schedule), you see her wobble as if her knees are buckling, then she
goes down while her entourage catches her and hoist her into the van.

http://www.wkbw.com/news/us-news-world/hillary-clinton-leaves-911-event-campaign-says-she-was-feeling-overheated

How many falls, fainting, and other episodes is she going to have? What is wrong with her?


https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/4155016/hillary-faints-at-9-11-memorial

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Ann

Wow, thanks for posting that thread mayflowers! Far more comments from the left than the right, just like here. It seems to be the left on HT that devours the gossip.

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Ziemia(6a)

Yes, lots of lies about people in the campaigns of competitors created by Trump and repeated by his fans.

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deegw

Post election "speculation" about Hillary's health.

Ginned up hysteria?

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queenmargo

OH Ann, it is not gossip, it is satire. The left are just such funny comedians you know.

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mayflowers

Ann, the OP is typical of what was all over RW blogs. The left was disputing the conspiracy theories, not devouring right wing-created gossip. You sure twisted that around.

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vgkg Z-7 Va(Z-7)

trump supporters have a good mentor.

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Ann

I also had to laugh when I read that thread and it was CNN "ginning up" and going "non stop" with the story rather than Fox News:)

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Ann

Oh, so only the OP matters and not the bulk of the 269 comments? LOL!

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ann_t

"Ann, the OP is typical of what was all over RW blogs. The left was disputing the conspiracy theories, not devouring right wing-created gossip. You sure twisted that around."

Too funny. I reread that thread and thought Ann must have been reading something different.

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Ann

"Too funny. I reread that thread and thought Ann must have been reading something different."

Well ann_t, there aren't any comments from me in that thread, but you can review yours if you want to bring back memories. Too funny.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

Melania may not have known about Stormy. Suddenly, here is proof that her husband slept with a porn star right after Melania gave birth. Now she knows about Stormy. Why wouldn't she try to get as far away from this monster as soon as possible. I read that Melania really didn't want to be first lady and she was promised that it would never happen.....but it did. The woman must have tons of resentment and anger and she is lashing out.

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mayflowers

You're usually sharper than this, Ann, but I'll go through it again for you. The conspiracy theories about Hillary's health were right wing-created. It was spread and devoured by thousands of trump supporters. The OP was posted all in a neat little package of crazy, so it's a really good example of how the right speculated about Hillary's health. Since it was done for political purposes during an election to help with trump's "win", it's even more pathetic than speculating if Melania is really okay. Some people here are sincerely concerned about Melania's health. I never saw any concern for Hillary's health when the RW was speculating, though it'd be better to call it what it was--conspiring.

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bry911

Saw this.


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foodonastump

Like when Trump said that 3 Americans were being released from NoKo?

Like when Trump said NoKo's #2 was coming to Washington to further peace talks?

Like when Trump said he'd decimate ISIS/

Like when Trump said he would move our embassy to Jerusalem?

Credibility. Crapper.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Do you understand using hyperbole

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I was thinking of some of the over 3000 times he's lied to us since taking office.

Like about voter fraud.

Like about Mexico paying for the wall.

Like about not knowing about the Stormy Daniels payoff.

Oh and you want to talk petty... like about the inauguration crowd size.

Like about why he fired Comey.

Like about the raises for our armed forces.

Like that he wasn't warned about the Russian probe.

Like saying Matt Pottinger doesn't exist.

Like I'm sure people will help fill in the gaps for the remaining several thousand.

Credibility. Crapper.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

how about dictating the letter for Donnie Jr. and then saying he knew nothing about it.

mayflowers: You are beating your head against a wall. They know it's true but will not give you the satisfaction.

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Ziemia(6a)

Trump's fans will only consider opinions from Trump's fans. And to be a Trump fan one cannot express an opinion contrary to Trump.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

No ties to Russia!

This said while Team Trump was busting a gut setting up multiple meetings with Russians.

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Ann

Are we swerving to the Mueller investigation? That would be a topic improvement.

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foodonastump

No no no... still Where’s Melania. Conan O’Brien claims to have been hiking the Appalachian Trail with her. Bette Midler thinks she drunk-cut her bangs. I think she may have diarrhea from post-surgery antibiotics.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

No!

She's sitting in my patio sipping organic fair-trade coffee, watching the hummingbirds, and admiring my staghorn ferns. Mockingbirds are sounding in the distance,

Melania will head for the boardwalk as soon as the marine layer lifts -- maybe try some inline skates, or display her skills at the skateboard park.

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cattyles

I honestly don’t care where she is but I do hope she is well. I’m enjoying the funny guesses, though!

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momj47(7A)

Love it, Bry911

That's probably close to the truth

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Embothrium(Sunset Climate Zone 5, USDA Hardiness Zone 8)

It would explain the big smile.

They're creepy and they're kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They're altogether ooky,


source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/theaddamsfamilylyrics.html

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purrmich _6

Hillary seems to be a sick woman, has broken bones from a 5-star resort book tour and is now trying to hide a massive back brace with boxier clothing and large Hermes .

That is not speculation!

The exclamation point lets us know that is not speculation! I'm sure mimi has her sources. :)

"seems to be" "broken bones from a 5-star resort book tour" (was it that fifth star that finally "broke" her? "and is now trying to hide" ooooooooooo a "Massive" back brace.

I could do this with every post mimi. Way to be ridiculous.

National Enquirer is the perfect place to get gossip.

ETA: And .... Infowars!!

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momj47(7A)

Hillary seems to be a sick woman, has broken bones from a 5-star resort book tour and is now trying to hide a massive back brace with boxier clothing and large Hermes scarves. That is not speculation!

Oh really, then why don't you supply a source for this "not speculation"?

Oh wait, you never do that, that seems to be too hard for you.

So we'll just take this lie and put it with all the other RW conspiracy theories you've spouted over the years

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Ziemia(6a)

Strange that FoxNews isn't carrying this information about Hillary's back.

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nancy_in_venice_ca Sunset 24 z10

The Hillary back brace is on Info Wars -- must be true!!

(Info Wars hedges its bets by saying the item is reported on social media. Too iffy even for Info Wars?)

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sunflower_petal(5a)

OMG, mimi believes Info Wars?

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momj47(7A)

When InfoWars hedges it's bet you know it's made up from whole cloth

And Mimi bought it

SMH

Mr. Trump might have a bridge he might sell you Mimi

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blfenton

Well, now Melania isn't going to Singapore and she isn't going to the G7 and she didn't go to Camp David last weekend. Apparently she had an event at the White House this afternoon but no media allowed. I'm thinking (with no backup of facts whatsoever,) that she has had a melt down.

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artemis_ma

Melania is up here with me, sipping on some wine, and refusing (thankfully) to discuss politics. We're watching the wild turkeys in the back yard, and wishing I had a grill here by now. She likes her beef medium rare, unlike her husband. We'll have some steak (on the range, medium rare), mushrooms, and bok choy, and tomorrow she'll head back down to DC.

Or something. I do hope wherever she is, she's having a good time.

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ojo_sigo

Did you know that Trump has a tie to neckties? so when he says that he has no ties to Russia, what can this mean?

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momj47(7A)

Did she show up at the event to honor Gold Star families.

Mr. Trump shouldn't be allowed near any Gold Star Family after his melt-down during the Democratic National Convention

There's no evidence that she was out in public today. The only reports are 10 or more hours old, and only report that she's supposed to be there

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jillinnj

So, no, I'm not OK with your lies and proclamations which have no basis in fact.

But congrats on putting yet another pathetic fabrication out there for the haters to devour.

Proclamations which have no basis in fact?

Would that be like when you claimed that the left refused to condemn the shooter at the baseball game? Cause that was like the biggest proclamation with no basis in fact. IN FACT, the left repeatedly condemned the shooter at the baseball game, yet you continued to claim they didn't.

Like that kind of pathetic fabrication you put out there for the haters?

That was a doozie!

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deegw

She is supposedly in this video from today. It's not the best shot.

Melanie appears

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mrskjun(9)

The shooter was Bernies fault!


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Ziemia(6a)

Wonder if the attendees at today's dinner will have to sign a NDA.

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Kathy

Did you see all the cellphones recording in the video? Trump makes a joke about them breaking up? Tacky to emphasize the rumor.

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momj47(7A)

10 seconds of a head constitutes Melania at a White House function?

She seems kind of short now.

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Ann

It wasn't tacky to make fun of the rumor, but it was incredibly tacky for all those (including those here) to go crazy with the rumor.

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Kathy

He lent credibility to the rumor by bringing it up. I would be embarrassed if Melania was really there, which hasn’t been verified yet.

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deegw

Here is a little better photo.


Melanie's twitter

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Kathy

Verified..lol..

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shaxhome(Frog Rock, Australia 9b)

And here's an even better photo...


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Kathy

Why disappear for so long after an illness unless you wanted to make an issue? If all was okay, why not make a short appearance or tweet? It is all so manipulative.

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momj47(7A)

It wasn't tacky to make fun of the rumor, but it was incredibly tacky for all those (including those here) to go crazy with the rumor.

Well excuse us, Miss Manners

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deegw

It is ironic to be called tacky by a Trump supporter and defender.

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bothell

I have been watching the total comments count on this thread mount (without reading it) with much amusement. Who cares where the porn star is or what she's doing. She, like her husband, is a disgrace to the country. It would be great if she simply slunk off into private life.

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Lily316

But they DO know tacky.

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patriciae_gw(07)

She's alive! She's alive!

sorry couldn't resist.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

But still no explanation of why she was invisible and silent for so long.


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ojo_sigo

Melania tweets that she is OK and refers to her loving husband as POTUS, it is so touching and sentimental.

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mrskjun(9)

LOL, she sent out a tweet saying she was fine and the left didn't believe it was her and now they say she should have let them know she was fine. Sounds about right.

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ojo_sigo

Are you referring to me with your "they" and "the left"? Don't forget what you and the right have said recently about lumping people together.

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Ziemia(6a)

No one come forward to tell us how charming Melania was last night at that reception?

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mrskjun(9)

Do you care Ziemia?

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foodonastump

“This account is run by the Office of First Lady Melania Trump.”

You get that? “Office of.” That leaves open the legitimate possibility that she didn’t author the tweet. We’ve learned that her husband doesn’t always write his own tweets either. Her being alive and well does not negate that possibility. The wording of the tweet suggests a possibility that she didn’t post it. Not proof, but possibility. None of this is difficult to grasp.

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Annie Deighnaugh

I haven't been following much...did she ever show up? Or is she still missing?

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chase_gw

Something is amiss. She is either not well or they have come to some agreement how they will manage their marriage through the rest of his term.

I hope for her sake and Barron's sake it is the later and not the former........but whatever it is is her business

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deegw

Annie, it looks like she made an appearance. I posted twitter photos up thread a bit.

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Ann

I hope for her sake and Barron's sake it is the later and not the former........but whatever it is is her business

Priceless, on several levels.



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Annie Deighnaugh

Hahah...maybe I should take a page out of the RW book and claim she was a body double, like they did with hc!

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Ann

Annie, I think we've already seen that up thread, with a height comment.

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deegw

It must be exhausting trying to manage all the content in the active threads.

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dandyfopp

One thing is for sure, at any given time Melanie is as far away from Donnie as she can be.

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leona_2008

I love Stephen Colbert!

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SandyC.

The Colbert Report was the greatest!


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lily316

Why no close-ups last night and closed to the press? I'm guessing facelift. I 'm also guessing the dignified Muslim Gold star family tRump insulted and maligned weren't in attendance to hear Sargent Bone Spurs rattle on about bravery.

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josephene_gw

She has to be alive otherwise tRump would be playing the sympathy card.

or maybe he is saving that for a better time.

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chase_gw

This event is usually closed to the press out of respect for the Gold Star families.

What I find disgusting, but typical , is he made opening remarks about him , the media and the economy. Really ? At an event like this ?


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CindyMac(8b)

Don't forget his speech in front of the CIA Memorial wall the day after his inauguration. He's been despicable since day one.

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Jenn TheCaLLisComingFromInsideTheHouse(5)


Melania is probably just doing some rollerskating (at least I spell her name correctly!)


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mr1010

A few pics of Melania over the years- Before and After-

https://beautyeditor.ca/2016/08/17/melania-trump-before-and-after

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Ann

Over 300 comments where so many showed so much concern - and no one has rushed back in yet today to say how great it was to see Melania looking so normal and well and without any indication of being abused?

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mr1010

Did we miss something today?

Have read several rumors that she's been living at her parent's home, she and Barron, in Potomac Md. Neighbors say there's been heavy Secret Service protection at their home for a few weeks. Normally her parents don't receive

protection so more than likely she and Barron are living there.

Maybe she pops in and out of WH to accomplish her part of agreement w/ Trump.

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Kathy

Mr1010, I do think she has an agreement. When he became President she cried. She knew she was tied in for years.

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CindyMac(8b)

PA BS.

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Jenn TheCaLLisComingFromInsideTheHouse(5)

Honestly the fact that she prefers being a mom and away from 45 as much as possible is neither surprising nor a problem from my POV.

If I were her I’d be sorely tempted to ‘cut short the contract’ with antifreeze in his diet cokes. Not that I’d actually encourage that, but I’d understand the urge.

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lily316

No work done??? OMG. Look at the above clip. I can't imagine how she denies this with a straight face. She is completely ordinary looking as a teen. I doubt Donnie would give her a glance. I can honestly say, both my daughter and I were much better looking at that age. Gee, wonder how we'd look now with all the "work" she has had done.

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dandyfopp

Obvious work done over the years, I don't see the point in lying about it.

She didn't look well today.


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CindyMac(8b)

Why the cattiness? I think she was beautiful as a teen and still is. Who cares if she's had work done?

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albert_135   39.17°N 119.76°W 4695ft.(❀ ✿)

Most of us have had some work done. Haircuts, trim nails. A lot of people have had orthodontics.

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chase_gw

I just wish everyone would leave her alone. It can't be easy on a million fronts and most of it is none of our business.



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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

I don't consider haircuts, trim and nails having work done. Getting teeth straightened is one thing, but getting every tooth veneered is quite another. That must hurt!

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queenmargo

Like I said from the onset, all this Melania well wishing was all so phony from the left.

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purrmich _6

She does cost this country. Her staff, her office and it's no small amount.

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mrskjun(9)

One thing about Melania, she is beautiful and she can say useful idiots in five languages.

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ojo_sigo

And this is useful?

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bothell

Is she back? I was so hoping she'd been deported.

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ojo_sigo

Margo, Melania is married to Donald Trump and he has some personal issues that you say does not affect his presidency, but can you imagine how that may affect her?

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Lily316

As much as I don’t think she’s a good First Lady, we really dodged a bullet. We could have first wife Ivana as FLOTUS and she’s a real wack job like her former husband.

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ojo_sigo

On the plus side lilly we dodged another one, can you imagine Hillary and Bill sharing the limelight, fussing over who wears the stilettos?

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Embothrium(Sunset Climate Zone 5, USDA Hardiness Zone 8)

Trumpster version of "nuts" is "some personal issues".

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queenmargo

ojo_sigo

Margo, Melania is married to Donald Trump and he has some personal issues that you say does not affect his presidency, but can you imagine how that may affect her?

Somehow I get the feeling that Melania knew of his personal issues before she married him. Seems she found other redeeming qualities.

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Jenn TheCaLLisComingFromInsideTheHouse(5)

I can’t see either Clinton wearing stilettos. They’re flats or low chunky heel types, both of ‘em.

It’s gotta be hard for Hillary to be so ambitious and then find out that no matter how skilled, educated, and experienced she is, her marriage counted against her and the 8 years as FLOTUS was the closest she’d get to being in the Oval Office running things. I’d have wanted to shoot the guy myself, maybe push his wheelchair over a cliff (if he winds up in a wheelchair). But we all make our own decisions in our personal lives and our careers. I wonder if she’d have married Bill in the first place if she knew he’d be an unrepentant cad who ultimately be a liability. They were both ambitious, in the career sense, though Bill had those ambitions to chase skirts.

@Margo

I am sorry you feel that our leftist sympathies are just a ploy, but I do feel bad for the woman even though she knew what 45 was like she probably never imagined that all his bluster about running for office was going to actually happen. She’s been focused on being a mom and that is a good thing, but she must be pretty lonely even when 45 is around he only talks about himself, never spends time with his youngest son, sleeps in a separate room. To me, that kind of marriage is very undesirable but I’ve chosen to commit to the kind relationship with the mister that he and I want including shared bed and co-mingling of finances. I don’t think Melania would choose my type of marriage any more than I’d choose hers.

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cattyles

I heard that, lily. Cheers, Melania. To her health. *clink*

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Joaniepoanie

Redeeming quality.........$$$$$.

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queenmargo

Come on, if Melania was so unhappy, why did she stay so long? If she is staying for the money, many do. If she is staying out of obligation to her son, many do. After Trumps second term, Barron will be off to college and then we shall see what Melania does. Why does this bother so many people?

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mayflowers

I've noted before how she wears a costume to match the event--a flannel shirt in the garden, a flak jacket at an air force base, and today at the FEMA event, she came prepared in her bush jacket. But where's her pith helmet?


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queenmargo

A love a theme;))

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Jenn TheCaLLisComingFromInsideTheHouse(5)

I don’t claim to know why she stays with 45, @Margo, I’m just stating what it looks like and how I’d feel if it was me. Hence the part about choosing what sort of marriage one has, etc. Her parents won’t be alive forever and I can imagine that when Barron goes off to college she will feel a bit lost because he’s been her whole life. I predict she’ll outlive 45 based on the age difference, and hope she finds some meaningful ways to fill her life at that point too, just like when Barron becomes a young man entering his adult years and doesn’t need Mom in the same way he does now.

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queenmargo

Jenn- why all the doom and gloom for Melania? She may be very happy. Everyone is just projecting.

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Ziemia(6a)

Yes, her presence there was very carefully planned and executed. She hasn't shown much in the way of spontaneity.

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cecily 7A

The poor thing was forced to attend a FEMA briefing to keep up appearances and you think she's happy? You're kidding, right?

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Ann

I just wish everyone would leave her alone. It can't be easy on a million fronts and most of it is none of our business.

LOLOLOLOL, let's review:

"It is very odd. She is entitled to her privacy but it's not good when people are left to wonder and guess. If is ill the country would want to know that and be supportive. If she has left him....so be it. Not sure anyone would care much except for the gossip / who could blame her carp.

Have the gossip rags picked up on it ?

ETA If she is ill you would think Trump would stay home with her...…"

"If she is ill and Trump left her for the weekend, and worse yet Barron if his Mom is sick , than he is a bigger jerk than I ever thought."

"The fact Barron didn't go wth his Dad and brothers and sisters to Camp David is odd but odder still is why Trump would leave her and Barron and take the rest of the family and go to Camp David if she is ill. Unless it was a family pow wow on how to handle the upcoming divorce and settlement"

"What a hoot Trump supporters think the left is into conspiracy theories !!!!"

"Something is amiss. She is either not well or they have come to some agreement how they will manage their marriage through the rest of his term.

I hope for her sake and Barron's sake it is the later and not the former........but whatever it is is her business"




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chase_gw

Ann. If you could view anything I post objectively, which I know you can't, every single one of those posts was supportive of her but condemning of Trump.

I have never said one single thing negative about her....except the odd comment on an outfit I didn't find particularly flattering...which is almost never.



Mind you I am flattered at how preoccupied you are with me.

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CindyMac(8b)

Obsessed is more like it. May even qualify as stalking.

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purrmich _6

Are those all chase's comments? A compilation which would have taken some time and effort?


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CindyMac(8b)

Cray cray.

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chase_gw

Yes they are.........it is all very flattering

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Ziemia(6a)

cray cray

hmm

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Ziemia(6a)

Hey, Cindy, you and I were both thinking of southern food at the same time! I did NOT copy you. Wonder how the crayfish season was after all that kerfuffle last year. Just saying.

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ann_t

Guilani must have forgot what Melania did for a living......

"I'm sorry I don't respect a porn star the way I respect a career woman or a woman of substance or a woman who ... isn't going to sell her body for sexual exploitation." Source

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mrskjun(9)

We've had a fantastic crawfish season. Pinch them tails and suck them heads!

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chase_gw

As much as I love sea food no way can I manage that ! I tried last time we were in LA but no way.....

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vgkg Z-7 Va(Z-7)

Mind you I am flattered at how preoccupied you are with me.

You're an enemy of the state chase, we haven't forgotten about how you Canadians burned down the White House back in 1812, and today are still a security threat.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Last night I was looking at some of the video on her appearance. To me, she doesn't look well--too strained. I'm wondering if they discovered something that needs more serious treatment.

The other thing I noticed was that Trump sounded nearly like a normal caring husband. He introduced her first to the group and made a comment about she had a serious spell but everything is all right now. Then he looked at her, smiled, and called her "honey."

Ok--so it was all scripted--except that he was not reading from a script but rather spontaneously speaking. Maybe he worked hard on memorizing what he was supposed to say, but I know that "honey" certainly took me by surprise.

But I really think Melania still is not well.

Kate

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josephene_gw

No one has mentioned.

Mellie Has worn that outfit before.

long sleeves in June?

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mr1010

dublinbay- I agree, she doesn't look well, which might point to her having a meltdown or a stint in a re-hab facility. My adult son has continues to believe

she is a pill popper and often appears to be under the influence. Understandable

she could drink or drug away the horrible news about her alleged husband.

In her latest video, she was buried in eye makeup, trying too hard to look normal?

I agree with others who think the Camp David family pow wow was to get

opinions on 'how to handle Melania'. She's definitely an outcast from the family now.


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dandyfopp

It seemed too large, or she looked too small.

I think she is ill.

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azmom

Chase,

White Nationalists and racists do not like "elitists/intelligent well educated", "foreigners", "financial secured " and "high achievers". You have all of those "short faults", It is not surprised that you constantly receive harassments from them.

Don't tell them if you are also slender.

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josephene_gw

Kjun, you mean mud bugs. They live in the ground like worms. Always wondered why not eat the heads too.

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josephene_gw

Some seem to have forgotten how the repubs treated/treats our First Ladies Mrs Obama and Mrs Clinton.


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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

long sleeves in June?

I wear long sleeves in August in Florida. Everything is air conditioned for men in suits. Women don't stand a chance wearing cute short sleeve outfits. (This is one of my pet peeves - ridiculously cold a/c).

Melania looked very subdued in the video as if there was something wrong. And there IS something wrong - her husband.

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cecily 7A

Anyone who works in DC wears long sleeves in June due to the air conditioning.

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