Some Dave Bang’s roses listed at ForLoveOfRoses
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Jasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
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Comments (30)You should never have to submit a photo to prove that a rose you received was mislabeled ... is that what RVR is requiring nowadays? I hope this is just a misunderstanding because I have always received really good plants from them. A phone call to straighten out the situation may be the best thing to do. In the case of mislabeled plants, we never know when a tray or rack full of plants will get knocked over or dug through by a critter. We do what we can to put the labels back where they belong, but mistakes are inevitable. It's how we correct those mistakes and make them that matters. Here's a good story of a mislabeled plant: In 2010, I ordered 'Shower of Gold' from Vintage. This is a once-bloomer, and I wasn't going to see flowers on it till at least the next year. 2011 came, and deer ate every bud on the plant ... no flowers that year either. In 2012, I was anxiously awaiting flowers and I did what I could to deter the deer. The buds swelled and opened ... pink. Contacted Gregg at Vintage. He immediately promised to custom root a correct plant for me. It took a year and a half for that plant to be mature enough to ship ... I received it in late April of this year. No proof required, no time limit on the guarantee, just straightforward action. The moral is ... it's not the fact that mistakes are made. We are all human and no one is perfect. It's the way that the mistakes are handled and made right that is the measure of a business ... any kind of business....See More"A Night of Magic" rose by Dave Bang at Almaden Valley Nursery
Comments (14)I also have Dave's VAMPIRE rose, as well as a handful of other dark stripeys that he may or may not list on HMF, and they most definitely do get those blackish-red shades in the early stage. But, they quickly fade to more red tones. Most of the blooms are rather small. But then, these are own-roots that are taking quite a long time to grow for me. Dave's climate (and lower CA) is much more conducive to getting them to grow faster. Up here we're so hot in the summer that the baby own-root roses languish and seem to take sooo long to grow for me, and I don't like to fertilize them much until they get well established. I imagine if yours is grafted, it will do a lot better. Here's another picture of A NIGHT OF MAGIC from last yr. I doesn't bloom as much as VAMPIRE does. As you can see, it is a very dark red. And this was taken in May when our temps were most likely in the 90's. I imagine in cooler temps, or more tropical areas, the blacker shades will be more prevalent. And here is a pic of VAMPIRE from this March. As you can see it's pretty dark also. The temps were a lot cooler this yr, and I think probably were around 60's-70's then. I certainly hope Dave will get more of his gorgeous roses out into the market. I know he has some of them being tested for marketing overseas, but it would be nice if he'd get them out into circulation more here in the USA....See MorePre-winter journal: roses' and our health & observation & wish-list
Comments (58)Cup_shaped roses is Niels in Denmark. He grows 400+ roses, zone 5b, acidic clay: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1719734/lifespan-of-a-grafted-rose cupshaped_roses(6) In my experience bareroot (grafted) modern roses .., have a few years where they look really great ...then they seem to decline - almost grow backwards - and I end up replacing them with new plants. It may however be a matter of rootstocks? Up until the 1980es - R. Canina species was most often used as rootstocks over here - (Rose Canina Pfanders in Germany - Rosa Canina Laxa in milder/warmer areas - like France and England - but most use R. Multiflora today.cupshaped_roses(6) **** In the above thread, Roseseek (Kim Rupert) reported Grafted-on-Dr.Huey can survive 30 years in dry California. Also Seil in sandy soil, zone 6a, reported grafted-on-Dr.Huey being 50 years old in her mother's garden. Nearby alkaline clay rose-park, zone 5a: they replace their Austins (grafted on Dr.Huey) every 2 to 4 years. Their longest grafted-rose is Double Delight, more than 5 years old. Dr.Huey rootstock, being drought-tolerant, can't handle soaking wet clay that turns into freezing ice in zone 5a winter. But grafted-on-Dr. Huey lives long in dry-climate like California, or in loamy/sandy soil like Seil's in Michigan. From Heirloom roses: "The place where the bud has been added, called the crown or bud-union, is a weak area on the plant. A hard, freezing winter can easily damage the crown, leaving only the rootstock to grow. " trospero(8) Paul Barden This is why I despise 'Dr. Huey' as a rootstock. You can be guaranteed that at some point in the life of the rose, 'Dr. Huey' will send up suckers that you will never, ever be able to stop. This is just what it does. The joke around here is that it is everybody's favorite rose because in May, there is no other rose you will see more blooming plants of than 'Dr. Huey' trospero(8) **** Agree with Paul Barden on Dr. Huey. In my Chicagoland, all the neighbors' roses which are grafted on Dr.Huey: either they die, or roostock take-over and become 10 feet tall rambling-eye-sores. For that reason, I post-pone getting some Austins until they are offered as own-root. bigtruckerdave(7 NC)April 7, 2013: Today I found enormous suckers growing about 3 feet from where I removed 2 Alba Maximas in the spring of 2012. And they were grafted on Dr Huey. jerijen(Zone 10) I haven't had Dr. Huey sucker in quite that manner -- but I have seen Dr. Huey suckers pop up about 6 ins. out from the bud union. What I HAVE had sucker that far away from the plant is Multiflora rootstock. Those ALL suckered rampantly here -- http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1621052/dr-huey-rootstock?n=7...See MoreO/T... new plant releases at Chelsea, some roses too..
Comments (23)Virginia.... I used to live in that region for 15 years, and we were ramblers/hill walkers in those days. Charleston Farmhouse and gardens is at the base of the Sussex Downs, where we used to ramble, so yes we've been past there many times, but never went into the grounds though, just viewed from afar... lots of old churches and red poppy fields all aglow in June....and beautiful wildflowers and meadows on the chalk grasslands... I knew of Virginia Woolf and the so called Bloomsbury set, but Vanessa Bell doesn't ring a.... bell, with me, [sorry].. Definitely salubrious.. and I think the rose looks nice too... if I see it in person, you never know......See MoreJasminerose, California, USDA 9b/Sunset 18
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