120k BTU or 100k BTU furnace?
1dragonlady
5 years ago
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tigerdunes
5 years agoAustin Air Companie
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Comments (9)All, Thanks for the comments--much appreciated! Specific responses to some of your thoughts: mike_home - "Does your current furnace keep the house warm on the coldest days of the year? If it does, then you should not be buying a furnace larger than 80K BTU at 95% efficiency." Yes. We recently had a stretch of sub-zero temps for 2-3 days with a low in the -15 to -20 F range overnight and had no problems. I went down in the basement and took a thermometer with me, and without any vents directly feeding air in, it was 59F when exterior temp was 0. (Upstairs was set at 69.) It stays pretty constant regardless of exterior temp. tigerdunes - "It appears to me if your mdl number is correct, the Goodman condenser is a 2 1/2 ton size, not 3 ton as you stated. This should be checked. BTW, you may not want to hear this but that model is a pc of junk. I would replace it with a matching unit." "I like Carrier option #3 over #4. I would want a media filter cabinet." "Any hot/cold spots within your home? Now is the time to point these out for dealer to address. Home has adequate return air? Where will new furnace be located? It will need to be in close proximity to Ext wall both for venting waste air and fresh combustion air." Could be a 2.5 ton, not sure. The contractor who quoted the AC units recommended a 3 ton so that makes sense. Same person also mentioned it was a piece of junk so that's not news to me, but like hearing it from an independent source vs. a sales pitch. There are a couple hot/cold spots which we pointed out. Partly I think this is due to the oversized old furnace stopping/starting vs. the ducting, which contractor #1 seemed pretty happy with overall (had 2 vents for each return, well placed, etc.). Furnace is located in the center of the basement but a pretty easy PVC run the 12" or so to the rear exterior. We have a VanEE filtering the intake. joeplumb "10 year AC. Don't waste your money on new AC, especially if you live in a temperate climate. I live in CT and have a 2 ton carrier 25 years old, no problem. Secret is it is only needed 3 months per year." - Agreed, a couple years ago we only used it for 2-3 weeks. Last summer, of course, it saw a lot of use. I'm not unwilling to spend $$ on a replacement but want to feel good about it... if there's a lot of useful life left on the unit (5+ years), then I'd rather wait. If it's likely to die soon, it makes a lot more sense to replace. I know you get a couple points higher SEER with the 2-stage AC but is it worth the extra cost given the climate here--avg high temp in July is 84, though humidity is also usually high in the summer. Thanks again for all the thoughts....See MoreTrane XV80 120kBTU needs dual returns????
Comments (4)I can help Gary, the I&O manual reads like this: "DO NOT install return air through the back of the furnace cabinet. Note: On upflow 5 or 6 ton airflow models, if the airflow requirement exceeds 1800 CFM, these models will require return air openings and filters on both sides; OR 1 side and the bottom, OR just the bottom." Gary, bottom openings with the furnace sitting on a structurally sound plenum box with a properly sized return drop is the norm, guessing like 10x24 or 12 x 20 at least. The filters are usually horizontal sandwiched between box and furnace, reason why Trane as one, make the filter cabinets to the width of its furnaces or air handlers....See MoreHVAC-upgrading gas furnace
Comments (3)lroz 1 and 2 are identical furnaces-three stg top of line Carrier/Bryant. 3 and 4 are two stg furnaces. 1 and 2 will require the Infinity/Evolution controllers which can be pricey. are those controllers included in price? no substitute here! with an existing 30 yr furnace, I do think you should strongly consider upgrading now and take advantage of all rebates/tax credits, etc. what about AC? IMO...See MoreNewbie needs furnace help
Comments (11)Tiger - the high energy prices are why we are doing the conversion now - our oil co projected an 85% (!) increase in prices. I'm not sure what size our A/C is, I'll have to check tomorrow when it's light out. It was here when we bought the house and I don't have any paperwork for it...would it say right on the unit? I know it's 12 SEER, but not the size. I don't have any complaints really - it may take our house a bit to cool, but once it does it stays cool. Our upstairs is a bit warmer than down, but I don't think it's outside the range of normal, maybe a 5 degree difference. Does that sound ok? I can see that most of the tape on our ductwork in the basement is loose - is that something we should take on ourselves before they do the work, or expect them to do it? Other than that the ducts seem fine. Contractor #1 is out then. #3 I didn't really like, and his estimate was through the roof, so that leaves me with 2 and 4. Here's what they recommended, please let me know which system you think is better. Contractor #2 - American Std Freedom 90 2-stage furnace #AUX2C100A948, Rheem 40 gal power vented water heater #42VP40F - $5890. Honeywell humidifier $525 Contractor #4 - Bryant - Evolution System Plus #355CAV042080, AO Smith 40 gal power vented water heater (no model given) - $5800. April Air 500 humidifier - $475 I was surprised that #2 quoted the same size unit (100K BTU) whether I picked 80% or 90% - that doesn't sound right to me, shouldn't the sizing get smaller with a more efficient unit? Dehumidification isn't an issue. We have a portable dehumidifier in the basement, and that's always been all we needed. Would the stat we have work, or is there some additional benefit of the new stat that I'm not understanding? I do remember him mentioning that with our current stat the switch between the two stages works more like a timer. However it is dry in the winter - would the addition of the humidifier solve that problem? So the variable speed blower and 2 stage heating should still be able to reach our second floor? Ryan - we're not changing our A/C at this time, if that's what your comments were referring to (calcs and SHR). Thanks for your input, I feel like we're getting closer to a decision!...See Moremike_home
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