Roses with fewer petals can handle more shade. How about Dainty Bess?

My front yard has morning sun only and I have Dainty Bess, Darlow's Enigma, Sally Holmes and Veilchenblau there.

Mindy

I love lots of petals but I might consider less for this spot . I will check your roses on hmf .

Look at hybrid musks. There is a recent thread here or on the Antique Roses Forum discussing hybrid musks for Florida.

Kordes Rosen website lists all their roses (many with US Canada availability) which are suitable for reduced sun conditions. Select "garden roses", then "specific situation", then "shady areas". They are not prone to hyperbole, unlike other well known players.

Here's a good article: https://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Gardening/diggin-it/2009/0612/some-roses-have-it-made-in-the-shade-the-rose-whisperer-says

Zimmerman says that Hybrid Musks and Polyanthas can do well in part shade.

Here's a link where I searched for "Shade Tolerant" ratings on HMF. Lists the roses in order.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/plants.php?tab=34&ratingTyp=610

Rosa multiflora is the species that gives shade tolerance to roses descending from it. So Multiflora Ramblers would be the large shade-tolerant once-blooming roses, then Hybrid Musks the medium to large shade-tolerant repeat-blooming roses, then Multiflora-based (not Wichurana-based) Polyanthas would be the small to medium shade-tolerant repeat-blooming roses. You'll find a few here and there among other types, but these are the safer bets by class.

There is an issue with Multiflora, however, in alkaline soil -- they don't like it. So, you have two options, since I'm assuming that where you are in Florida has sandy alkaline soil. One is to see if you can find them on Fortuniana rootstock, which does well in your conditions. The other is to amend the planting areas to make for conditions they like. You'll find garden sulfur available for mixing into the soil. You'll also want to mulch well, to compensate for fast drainage. And when you choose fertilizer, pick something for acid-loving plants, like Espoma Holly Tone. You may also need to add an iron supplement, like Ironite, since iron gets bound up in alkaline soil, and Multiflora roses in those conditions will have trouble extracting it, resulting in pale leaves.

:-)

~Christopher

David Austin's website has a category about specific situations, one of which is Shady Areas. (I would like to comment that you are lucky that your sunny part of the day is the morning. I have portions of my flower garden that get now-and-then-dapples of sun in the morning, mostly shade, until late morning or mid-day. Then comes 4+ hours of sun for the remainder of the day. Black spot is a problem. . . )

Thanks everyone ! I will search those links & roses mentioned.

Twilight Zone is a grandiflora that doesn't like hot afternoon sun. It seems very happy with 4 hours of morning sun in my southern garden.

pink rose said this:

pink rose(9b, FL )6 hours ago ............................. I am looking for either a HT or floribunda that stays healthy and gives me some blooms .Any help ?

The most shade tolerant of my roses that is NOT a rambler/musk/polyantha, is Gruss an Aachen, an early HT or floribunda which is so good that David Austin even lumps it with his English roses. It's a lovely, changeable cream/buff/salmon/apricot...even pink. Did I mention it's changeable, lol? But here it's mostly a lovely light apricot with highlights.

It does very well here with just 4-5 hours of sun. It blooms quite nicely with the amount of sun it gets. Your sunlight is much more intense, so it should do well for you, assuming you don't have to deal with nematodes where you are. You might check with K&M roses to see if they have it on fortuniana.

I can't speak to GaA's disease resistance in FL; here, it's probably slightly above average. I spray as little as possible.

John

Sweet drift. It’s more beautiful in person than in pics and I have many that do well in partial shade. Abe Darby is shade tolerant too, but gets leggy in partial shade. Quietness and Duchess de Brabant do well in light shade. Heritage is another.

Can you get 'Barcelona' where you are? would you be interested in that one? I only suggest it because, it's an HT and sold under the name 'Francis Dubrueil', I grew it in a sunless position, 1 hour sun would have been a luxury it never got, and it bloomed surprisingly well, healthy, and of course a lovey scent to it..

Deep red, shiny foliage... and I'm not exactly situated on the Costa del Sol...

Marolena

I think Francis Dubruli is available here .l love red roses so l will definitely check it out .