I wish I had those railings. If 'Ghislaine de Feligonde' grows for you like it does here, it would easily cover that fence. My rose is pruned now, otherwise it would be at least 10 foot tall and 15 wide after just 3 years grafted. I don't think it's too yellow, more apricot/pink fading to creamy white..

Alternatively, you might like the Austin 'Bathsheba', I presume it's available for you. A conservative height of 10 foot, but I would expect more than that.. would appreciate some shade from the hottest sun.. low thorn, flexible canes, easy to train.. some droopy blooms to look down on you from above..

Thank you! How does Bathsheba compare to CPM, color-wise? Does it get taller? Is it as shade tolerant? Here’s a photo of 1 of my CPM in shade a few years ago when i first planted it, so still very low. But gives an idea of the way it glows in shade, and the colors in my late spring/early summer garden. Now theres also deep blue clematis with it:

I've not grown CPM but they may be similar, like so many Austin's.. 'Bathsheba' opens apricot centred, white outer, then turning yellow and cream, ..but the overall effect is more yellow..

I think it will get bigger than CPM. Mine is growing out of full sun, north facing, and thriving at the moment. A very vigorous rose with lots of canes from the base.

I hope you find one you like, you seem to have plenty to choose from..

Gdf, Mme. Alfred Carriere or Felicia. Your garden is beautiful.

Thank you. Do you think Felicia would get tall enough - The fence is 12 ft. Didnt list, but had thought of something like Buff Beauty, but seemed it or other hybrid musk would be too short, at least in NYC?

You might want to consider Lady Ashe, as well. She's a sport of Aloha (new Dawn's child) so thorny, but reputed to take some shade. I'm hoping Felicia will grow to at least 8" to cover my north facing wall. MAC would probably cover the most. Perhaps you could grow her (MAC) with a shorter, more apricot climber intertwined as she is lower thorn for me thus far.

Thanks again! Will have to research Lady Ashe. I know Aloha is pretty shade tolerant. I used to have MAC that I grew sort of on a fire escape on an old apt’s deck. But was trying to find something apricot-ish if possible.

You mention Reve d'Or as being possibly too yellow. It really isn't yellow, but has a more buff appearance, with apricot undertones, not yellow. However, I'm not sure that 4 hours of sun would be enough for it. You could always try and see if it works.

Monarda - Your Kathleen is beautiful. How tall is yours? (I’m in Brooklyn as well.)

K S - thank you - very helpful! Not sure 4 hours is enough for it either...but it would be a good match color/height-wise.

My fence is six feet tall and the canes of Kathleen are long (7 to 15') flexible, and nearly thornless). I also have Ghislane de Feligonde on the same fence, but it is not as vigorous or floriferous for some reason. Maybe because it is growing where a locust tree once grew and the stump is nearby. Or maybe it needs more sun. I am planning to move it.

Monarda — thanks again. How do you think Kathleen would do training the canes more vertically, give. my 12’ fence....?

I think once they hit the top of the fence they would tend to grow horizontally and / or arch downward. Generally I think climbers should be encouraged to grow horizontally though, because horizontal branches produce more blooms (from offshoots trying to grow up), whereas vertical ones want to bloom only at the at the tippy top. But perhaps a more expert gardener climbers can explain it better. Put it this way, though, I wouldn't discourage you from planting Kathleen and seeing how it goes.