Pruning New Dawn/Awakening
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Comments (2)Oh, too bad, but it's a bad winter for everybody around this region; and I'm about 30 mi. east of you. My very small, new-last-year fig tree, covered with hay last winter, is only now sprouting one leaf on its two twigs. So do let it have more time, but be ready to prune like crazy if needed. Carol...See Morehow to prune a new dawn climber...
Comments (6)With climbers more than 4 years old, it is good practice to take out some entire canes each year. Take out the oldest 1/3 of the canes at the base. This helps to control size; also, with most varieties, canes are most productive when they are two and three years old. This kind of pruning is traditionally done right after the spring flush of bloom is finished. If your arbor is only, say, 4' wide and 2' deep or long, it is way too small for New Dawn; the best thing would be to remove it now and plant a smaller climber such as Renae, also light pink, but much less vigorous and thorny. As long as stems are nearly vertical, roses will bloom only at the top of the plant. To get bloom further down, you have to train canes semi-horizontally (45 degrees or flatter). If your arbor is deep (long), you can do that on the sides; if not, use the upper faces of the arch as much as possible. Just cutting the canes back as you have done can produce some lower bloom only provided it is done about six weeks before the spring flush of bloom normally occurs. At other times it will result in lots of long canes developing....See MoreHow to prune New Dawn and Graham Thomas
Comments (6)How long have you had these roses? I ask because, in my experience, New Dawn is an extremely vigorous, even unruly grower. I'm in Italy, about a zone 8 or so, mediterranean climate. I foolishly planted mine in a central area of my garden,on a path... "foolishly", because it turned into a gigantic shrub, a mass of long, thorny laterals all over.Every year I dreaded having to attempt to prune it. In the I dug it out; it was just the wrong place for such a vigorous, thorny rose. Someday I hope to get it again, but I will plant it off in a place where it can just grow as a rambler and do as it likes,growing up into trees, maybe fencing out and frightening off intruders with it's wicked ,dense and thorny branches, instead of terrorizing me, lol! I think this rose could be grown as a climber up a wall, for example, if one was willing to keep up with it , religiously tying in those long laterals, etc., but I think it would require devotion. Hopefully more people will weigh in with more successful stories. I don't mean to be discouraging; this was one of my first roses and I had no experience; mainly it was the wrong rose for that spot in my garden. But I don't think you need to worry about how to ENCOURAGE New Dawn to get big and bushy; I think you need to think ahead of how to control and contain it!...See MoreIDing zone 4 or 5 by New Dawn performance? Anyone else with New Dawn?
Comments (27)I'm finally able to access my pictures so I'll post a few here of the roses I mentioned. Quadra in my experience is at least as thorny as ND, but the flowers last much longer. Being a semi-double, you don't notice them fading as much and I've seen clusters last a good 2 weeks without getting ratty. I'd say mine that's maybe 7 or 8 years old blooms more or less all summer, taking a break in August as most of my roses do. Here's a shot after I finally wrestled him into an arch after a few years free standing: Here's my Colette after about 3 years, making her a young climber. She's survived both polar vortex winters, so I'd say she's fully hardy in my zone 5. Lunar Mist climbs quite well along the fence for a good 10 feet or more and is usually tip hardy for me. And even though my "not RdV" doesn't repeat, my Reine des Violettes is a great statement in spring and totally tip hardy every year. It would laugh off zone 4 winters too I suspect. The "real" RdV should repeat fairly well and it's apparently a little more of a purple cast than mine, which is a good thing in my world. Hope this helps - you have many good options. Cynthia...See Moretotoro z7b Md
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