"Cabbage rose" was first used to describe the Centifolias, then later the term was applied to some Hybrid Perpetuals which had a similar flower form. I think the term continued to be used (if rather incorrectly) to describe almost any many-petaled rose with the old flower shape (as opposed to the high-centered shape epitomized by Hybrid Teas and some of the later old Teas). If you saw flowers that late in the season, it's not a Centifolia -- but that's apparent by looking at the pics, anyway. To my eye, it looks rather Tea-ish, which could mean it's actually a Tea, or a Hybrid Perpetual (or Bourbon) with Tea breeding, or an early Hybrid Tea. I'm hoping that more Tea experts from CA will chime in with stronger opinions. :-) ~Christopher

I once found a pale yellow rose that smelled of bananas in a park while on holiday in Romania. It had no label. I haven't been able to figure out what it was. Anyone know? Mashamcl above said Queen Mary II smelled like bananas, but I'm pretty sure the one I loved so much was in the yellow-apricot area.

Now *THAT* was fun! If you get a chance to go to Rose Petals, take it! -Belinda's Dream -Jesse Hildreth -Mother'sDay -Solfaterre -Clotilde Soupert -Aloha -Ausmus -Key West Rock Rose -and one other I can't remember. I'll have to check tomorrow. I could have picked three times as many! I even forgot to get Peggy Martin it wasso overwhelming (even though and Cyd didn't rush us and walked the aisles with me answering my questions and helping me) but if I manage to keep these alive I'll go back for sure for round two!

Wow those are some beautiful plants! Very romantic looking :). Actually, the more I read about it, the more I'm interested in the Lamarque there. I'm also trying to research to see what any of the Chinas or Albas have to offer, as they apparently have a wonderful scent. Gallicas kind of have my eye too (all that history appeal and talk of medicinal properties is seductive), but I'm not so sure how much luck I'd even have with that group here in Ocala. So far it seems my best bet is probably gonna be something from the noisette or the china group... just gotta find which ones can deal with that sultry florida sun and humidity lol. Your guys' advice is wonderful, by the way. It's really helping me to focus on only a few groups to find what suits my needs, as opposed to all roses ever. (It's kind of spurred me into a days long research fest on comparing the different rose groups ^_^). Anyone know of any white scented chinas that do exceptionally well in central FL?