I find Houzz seems to be all about pushing product now, and less about ... I dunno, what was their original business plan anyway? Anyone know?

I never bother with it on my phone, just use a computer if/when I want to check something out.

I couldn't stand the old GW platform, so this works well for me, but it's still not ideal.

I find an awful lot of the Houzz Ideabooks are just glorified browses through Pinterest-type love-ins; not particularly insightful, thoughtful articles any more, more puff pieces. More fancy box of chocolates than a healthy bowl of porridge!

Their search engine isn't great - nowadays I expect better.

Houzz is perhaps just too big for its own good now?

I'll be interested to see what others think!

Mobile is the only way I seem to be able to access the old conversations side on decorating. So different people seem to be having different experiences.

I was never on GW or Houzz until about 6 months ago, but I access what I believe is the GW platform through my phone with no issue. Maybe what I am doing is different?

Hi Beachem! What mobile platform are you using? I'm posting this from an iPad and have no problems viewing or posting from my iPhone. Are you accessing through this URL http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/kitchbath

Posted from my android phone via Chrome,no issue.

I had issues after logging off a month or so ago getting back to the old GW formats after signing back in. I cleared my cookies and switched to chrome and have not logged off since so no more issues.

I have no issues on phone or tablet using Safari, Chrome, or Foxfire. IOS phone and Android devices. Although the Foxfire on the laptop won't go to old GW format, the mobile seems fine.

I was good to go with the GW format until I got a new phone. Then my mobile was always taking me to the annoying Houzz format. Suddenly in the last few weeks, it was fixed!

I access the site on my PC - no issues at all. I can access the full site on my phone though, and have not noticed problems there. I despise the app and never use it.

Mostly get here from my laptop using old bookmarks and knock on wood it works. I don't use the app - have never dowloaded it on any device. Got a new phone recently and worried what would happen but since I use the same browser on my phone, it;s the same bookmarks and I get here with no trouble.

I agree that the IT team at Houzz is not doing them any favors. Periodically someone from the team pops into a thread where people are having issues (seems to be more often on Houzz forums, not Gardenweb) and asks a few questions or says they are working to address some certain issue. But they skip over most questions or issues and just seem to focus on something where a fix in already in the works. I've even tried going through their contact us links - never get a response. No doubt in my mind, if there was a better run site and enough players from here were interested, I'd jump ship.

Very strange you’re getting a redirect every time. I’m using Safari. What browsers have you tried?

Do you have the same result if you navigate there via the menu on the left from your Houzz home page it’s forcing you to (Advice/Gardenweb Discussions/Home Forums/Kitchens)?

beachem, have you tried reinstalling the browser on your phone? And you would need to uninstall the HOUZZ app on your phone to stop that redirect. (At least that is how mine worked.)

I just tried the gardenweb url on my iPhone using Chrome. It redirected me to the secure mobile site automatically like you’re experiencing. I’m able to turn the mobile site off by selecting the three dots on the right on the menu bar then select “Request Desktop Site”. This should resolve it for you

Install Chrome. Uninstall the app.

It looks like you are accessing through your mail app link rather than directly through your browser. That automatically opens the app. I never view the forums through the app. You can request the desktop site in Safari by holding down the refresh arrow in the url window.

bbtrix - you beat me to it. :-) beachem, why are you accessing the site via your email?? Use your browser. And regardless of which browser you use (although I would always choose Chrome over Safari) you should uninstall the HOUZZ app from your phone.

Beachem, to answer one of your first question: Yes, these issues are pushing me off of GW/Houzz.

For several years I have been an intermittent user of both platforms, with separate use of Houzz (saving photos to ideabooks) vs. GW (actual learning and planning). I spent more time here over the past 3 years because I got serious about kitchen reno planning. Over the past year, I haven't noticed any rhyme or reason as to when, where, and how I lose access to the GW kitchen forum. I have it bookmarked on the PC from which I'm typing; otherwise I'd have no access via links.

I must admit that I get impatient with the numerous new posts that appear to be from Houzz (non-GW) users - posts that are barely thought out, ask for help with everything with no background info, and no follow-up to know whether the OP is even following responses. Those are a waste of time compared to the treasure trove of info that I've gotten from more thoughtful posts and responses on GW.

What Chess said: I access the site on my PC - no issues at all. I can access the full site on my phone though, and have not noticed problems there. I despise the app and never use it.

And make sure you have the green links as you see in bbtrix's post above. Stay away from the grey buttons..... they'll take you to the Houzz platform every time.

App UNINSTALLED. Enough of that already.

There are multiple threads going on about this same topic, so many of us are experiencing the same problems, regardless of our operating system or browser. I am using Windows 10 and have problems on Chrome, Firefox and Edge. I'd include the links to the other threads, but I can only get one of them to link to the GW format so I will save you all the grief of being inadvertently being transported to Houzz. This same thing happened when Houzz first took over, so my guess is they are messing with the workings again and making a lot of people unhappy in the process.

BTW sherri, even if I click on green links from within the GW formatted forums, I am still redirected to the Houzz forum page for some, but not all, of the forums.

Never used the app. I just had to get a new laptop..

Even typing in what gets me to GW back on my old laptop, or on my phone, I still end up in HouzzHell on the new laptop for most forums.

If this continues - typing this on my phone is time consuming - as soon as some great people I have been viewing complete their homes, I will be DONE here.

@jellytoast. I agree, sometimes the green links will take you to Houzz, but (at least for me) the grey ones get me there every. single. time.

On my iPhone, I use the 'frequently used sites' icons that are there when I click on Safari and it takes me right to it. No (lousy) App for me either.

But I also learned the trick (from a fellow GW poster) to find it anytime, from the Houzz Home page drop down Menu. And I always use a mobile devise (iPhone and iPad Mini) but it also has worked on a PC or Android devise when I've tried it.

That other GW post was some time back when Houzz was reaking havoc with our beloved GW Forums soon after the transition. Everyone was having issues with their bookmarks and previous ways of finding GW.

The poster mentioned that it was now listed under the 'Advice' section!! I'm sorry I don't remember who it was to give them credit for that marvelous discovery. Previously I believe there was a 'GardenWeb' listing directly from the main menu.

So even just now, from Safari, I Googled Houzz, clicked on the Home Page, then click on the Menu icon to get here:

Then click on the 'Advice' section and you will see 'Houzz Discussions' and 'Gardenweb Discussions':

Or the wonderful Garden Forums etc.

I'm not sure if everyone else is doing it like this or something different. But this simple direction has helped me immensely.

I don't comment often (especially having delt with long term family health problems) but this Forum is and has been such a lifeline for me. It is informative, entertaining and has such emotional continuity with the history of such great posters. The knowledge base and the time to giving help from everyone is just amazing.

And yes I quite agree with the frustrations of new Houzz posters who don't know the GW ways and other irritations. For instance I was no longer getting email notifications on comment follow ups like I used to on the old GW. I'll see what happens after this one though. But I plan on sticking around for the long haul. Sharing knowledge and helping; isn't that what GW is all about? Paying it Forward.

Oh I am happy to not get email notices, I would def turn that off!

cindallas, in my case, using Safari on my iphone works fine. And everything worked fine on my PC, too, until a few days ago. Now, all the things that "should" work, don't. If the "two separate forums" STAYED separate it would be great and no one would be complaining. It is the inadvertent switching between forums and formats that is maddening. There is not a problem finding the GW forums under Advice. STAYING there is the problem.

I access GW on a laptop w/Firefox. So far, so good. I tried to install Chrome on my machine, but didn't get anywhere. When I have trouble accessing GW, I'll be outta here. I'm too old to figure out computer stuff anymore, and definitely don't have the patience.

@ Chess, bbtrix and everyone, thanks so much for responding. I was trying to access the GW forums directly from the browsers on my phone. It was sending me to the app home page every time. This is new as of two weeks ago. As a result, I used my mail update to get to the topic so I could respond.

Based on your recommendations, I deleted the app from my phone. This now allows my browsers to go to the forums directly. I just couldn't respond to you guys because it then wiped out my login on the browser as well. I had to wait until I was able to be on a desktop (today) in order to find my login info.

I had another run of bad luck with my in laws in a car accident with a hit and run driver then their house flooded on Weds. I've been sequestered at their house with no internet access for a week. We ran home Sunday to get more clothes so I was able to get on the desktop and post the weekly this morning before I left. I get to sleep at home tonight then leave at 5AM tomorrow for their house again to deal with the adjuster.

My kitchen will NEVER be finished. My husband is so upset that I'm not working on our kitchen. Unfortunately, dealing with his parents' health and home are a priority over our kitchen.

The takeaway I got from these discussion is never to have the Houzz app on your mobile devices now that they've changed programming again. It literally blocks any access to GW forums on any browsers.

Oh so sorry to hear all you are dealing with. :(. Hang in there, your kitchen is not the most important thing right now, you are right. And yes, usually apps will redirect, so I learned a while back that unless I absolutely love everything about the app, I don’t use it on my phone and stick to the website. Sometimes they get it right, but a lot of times they don’t. And Houzz is a perfect example of the latter.

Wow! Seems like the bad always happens all at once. I hope your in laws are ok.

I still wonder why we all are having different experiences with Houzz. I have the app on my iPhone and it does not redirect me to the app on Safari. I also haven’t done the latest system update. I usually wait till bugs are worked out. Now I don’t want to update. I use the app for browsing photos and checking products only. It is ridiculous they are forcing redirects. I’ll uninstall it too if I lose direct access to GW once I do the update.

Hope things settle down for you soon. Family is most important and your kitchen will happen. Today I just started installing cabinet hardware on a kitchen I finished a year ago!