Thank you so much for replying. So so appreciated, as I am overwhelmed. Does the Thermador come in white?

I definitely don't have the resources for LaCornue.. The Tuscany alone is giving me a heart attack, but if it is truly a superior range, I will cut back elsewhere in the project to get the look with the performance.

I am looking at a white Bluestar as well and should probably do some research on gas versus dual fuel. I've always had dual fuel, so I was simply going by that.

I'm also wondering if the Five Star is worth considering for the price.

So grateful for your feedback!

No, Thermador is stainless only. The knobs can be blue or stainless. At first I really wanted a vintage looking centerpiece sort of range but I also really wanted a steam oven. I didn't really have room/budget for a wall steam oven AND a 48" range.

Lacanche (depending on configuration) will cost about the same as the Tuscany, i.e low/mid teens, and gives you a similar styled look. Most owners here seem happy with it.

Bertazonni also makes colored ranges in both a professional and antique style, some all gas and some duel fuel. The reviews were mixed and local availability limited enough that I did not pursue further.

yes, the Bertazzoni reviews were enough to make me stop looking. My concern with Lacanche is availability of people to repair it. I also need to recheck the size of those ovens. I'm looking for one bigger and one smaller, but the bigger one needs to be a decent size to fit pizza pans, cookie sheets, etc. Thanks so very much for your help again :)

Would also love to hear what people think of the 48" Capital Culinarian.

connoiseurian is their dual fuel, comes in white, well respected on these forums.

Thank you, Anthony. I've been researching the connoisserian since you posted and like what I see. I'll try to find some of the discussions about it, as I'd like to read some reviews. Right now, I think I am between that and the Tuscany.

IMO a 48” range in a home kitchen is a waste of money both in the price of the range , the exhaust system the noise it makes and the looks of the hoods that actually are needed . I always take my clients to a commercial kitchen and ask how they like the noise first.

I would be very very hesitant to go with a Viking, there are numerous historical threads regarding the quality problems they have had. They have new ownership and by accounts seem to be moving in the right direction, but I wouldn't want to be the test case at that price point.

The house we bought came with a (2004ish) 6 burner Viking range top. It worked very well for me and in fact, I sold it for $400 just a few weeks back as we began our demo. But, a rangetop with no electronics means there is much less that can go wrong. It would be that oven I would worry about (our electric Viking oven never worked properly since we bought the home).

After a year of research (and project delays!) I narrowed our new range search to Blue Star and the Capital Culinarian and even made a work trip to Boston (in 2016) to drop in to Eurostoves and see, touch, feel, and learn all about them.

They were both wonderful and I am confident that either one would be great and the best thing I've ever cooked on. I went with a 48" Blue Star RNB (it is not DF) because I liked the way it looked a bit better than the Capital, so that was the tie breaker for me.

(I recall someone making a comment on these forums that some Blue Star owners have a near romantic relationship with their ranges/range tops and I think that is fair - it was almost love at first sight!)

Edited to add (after seeing Patricia's comment): Patricia makes a reasonable point (though obviously I do not share the opinion that it is waste of my money) that you need to really consider the cost and implications around the needed exhaust system. We are having a stone arch built around a 1200 CFM hood insert and will also need make up air. It will be beautiful, but it is expensive.

Thank you both so much. How much beyond the cost of the hood insert would I need to spend with a 48" range? Would that not be the case with smaller ranges? This is my first kitchen renovation. I currently have a 30" Bosch stove with a microwave above, so I am truly new to all of this. My interest in the 48" is specifically for more burners and the double ovens. I don't have room for wall ovens in addition to my range and we do cook and bake a lot. I have three children and a large extended family. I find myself entertaining quite a bit and would love to have a second oven. My heart was set on a Lacanche because I don't think I have ever seen anything quite as lovely. I wish I could try one in person to see if the ovens are big enough for me. We are vegetarian, so I don't need to worry about fitting a turkey into my oven, but given the amount we cook, I do want enough oven space to cook for many people.

I am in Boston frequently. I may stop in at Eurostoves to see the Capital. Thanks for that tip!

There must be more than one good applaince store in Boston. BTW if you do not have space for wall ovens your kitchen is too small to handle a 48” range IMO.

My new kitchen is actually going to be very large, as we are combining the kitchen and dining room. That said, one wall is an enormous fireplace and another is a glass door out to a three season room, so I have less wall space in the original kitchen where I want my range to be. The original dining room will now house an island and cabinetry/refrigerator etc.

I don't think I would want a range smaller than 36", so I don't think I could do both that and a wall oven. I also really like the look of the 48". Is the noise a factor even with 36" in your opinion?

I live in NJ, not Boston, but have family there and travel there enough if that is the best place to see a Capital range. I'm also still very interested in Lacanche and perhaps the Viking Tuscany (so few reviews on that one, though I know Viking doesn't have a great reputation here).

Plan as much expenditure for the hood and the makeup air as you spend on the range. Any range.

If you have less wall space, then you are planning applying since overload and pribabky do not have the right layout yet. Architects are not kitchen designers. You need a KD. Scale is important. And you are not accounting for that issue, or the ancillary costs of your wish list.

Hi Sophie,

Thanks so much for writing. I am working with a kitchen designer. My plan includes a 48" range. I also have a contractor who has given me an estimate based on that, so I am assuming (hoping) he factored in the amount for the makeup air. I will definitely check though. I am going to keep weeding through all of the conversations to see if I can get some more reviews on the three ranges I have in mind (Capital Connosseurian, Viking Tuscany, Lacanche). Great information here. So appreciative.

Heck, I have a 30" range with five burners and two ovens, one of which is convection (and the other of which is great for the incessant cooking of fishsticks and sheets of cookies).

There's just no way I'd want to be deafened by a huge hood -- our 400 cfm hood makes me crazy as it is, and you don't want to end up using it less and poisoning your family with combustion products from those big burners that aren't getting vented.

Here's one in 36", from a quick search here:

First - Eurostoves is no longer in Boston, they moved to Virginia.

But, check around, I would guess there are some other appliance stores in NJ that would have the Capital for you to at least look at, bring your favorite baking pans and see if they fit.

Hoods can get expensive and the make up air quite complicated. I cannot recall what our stone surround is costing us, but the make up air, plus vent hood insert is in the ballpark of $3k. This cost does not include aesthetics surrounding the hood, which can probably get as pricey as you can imagine. Kaseki, our resident expert hood ventilation systems, correctly points out that between functionality, aesthetics, and affordability, you can maximize any two.

My renovation got delayed a couple years due to various reasons so it allowed me to read these forums over that time and learn a lot. Like, who ever heard of make up air before? ;-)

Hit the search function and you will find much on the topic of vent hoods.

Thank you. I was originally looking at a Verona, but I haven't heard great things. What is your stove? I've never seen one like that. I'm cooking on a 30" Bosch now. Your message about incessant sheets of cookies made me laugh - I'm guessing you've got kids or a sweet tooth! In both cases, I can relate :)

I went for a five star range after getting sticker shock from some of the other ranges available. They do have 48" dual fuel ranges available. I believe their site is fivestarrange.com.

So I know this is a old thread but I’m wondering what you ended up with as far as a range? Now I’m looking and I’m interested in what you did. I too was looking at the Tuscany but wanted a six burner with a grill and even though it was 48” it only had 4 burners but were for huge pots I guess so that was put and the oven was also to small for me. I’m leaving toward the Viking commercial model in white and the company is much better now since new ownership a couple of years ago. So what did you do? I also am thinking Blue Star