Touch on is the way to go imo, mine work like a charm.

Dr B, which touch-on do you have and have you had touch-less before? Thx.

Delta/brizo is the only option I think. I have certainly used touchless before, that was enough to know I didn't want it. Tapping on/off makes much more sense and has worked exactly as advertised (i have three of the faucets). The only issue I've had is that guests sometimes struggle with how to use it.

I have not had touch on, but am in love with my kohler sensate touchless. I love not having to touch the faucet at all when my hands are messy, or when I’ve been working with raw meat. Super easy to use, and much less cleaning. I haven’t tried the touch on as I wanted to not touch the faucet at all

@DrB477 - was your Brizo challenging to install? I am at the end of a kitchen renovation that includes installing a Brizo touchon faucet (Vuelo model) and the plumber can't get the touchon feature to work. He got a new sensor from Delta but still not working. He said it would be easier if I went back to traditional so I asked, "Easier for who?" I really want the touchon after using one in a friend's home. Next step is to get a completely new unit and try that, but my fear is my plumber is just missing something or the touchon units are truly problematic.

What do you think?

Sorry swedish_pimple, i realize that isn't your question, just looking for info from someone who supports touchon.

It was easy to install, I just wrote a check.

Our plumber installed three of them. He didn't mention anything about them being tough to install and they all worked fine from the start and have continued to perform flawlessly.

Our faucets were delta (essa x 2,trinsic pro x 1) not brizo but the mechanism is the same to my understanding.

Curious, how do these work re: temp control? Don't you have to manually set it somehow?

you set the temp manually, but can leave it in that position so that when you turn it on, it will be at that temp.

Okay DO NOT USE TOUCHLESS...

we had a meeting today about them. If you think about they have an electrical component to them that senses your presence. Electric + water = no good....

Also, had a customer come in to the show room. She had her drain plug in... cat walked in front of her "touchless" faucet. Now was a $50,000+ homeowners claim on her hands. Which is where we learned that in my state and neighboring ones you actually have a special clause in your homeowners insurance for them.

they do not seem worth it to me.

Catt/cat. Can't make this up!

Mine automatically goes off after a couple of minutes. And the electrical part is nowhere near water.

Ok. I just can’t imagine wanting one more thing that goes from maintenance-free-lasts-for-decades to electronic-sensor-stuff-will-probably-break-and-need-repair.

Edit: will probably not in fact be repairable and just need replacing!

When I was a kid my parents said similar things about electric windows in cars and actually placed a special order to NOT get them on our gunmetal blue caravan with wood grain :)

Touch on faucets are worth it and just a better way to do things. After less than a year of use at home, now when I'm at work I find myself trying to tap on faucets and getting angry they don't work that way...

Fair enough (and I do have electric windows in my car!!).

But I do get super frustrated by "advances" and "improvements" that result in previously reliably devices/appliances etc becoming short-lived throwaway junk.

"Drdeb1234, it’s not about it being a chore but rather not having to touch the facucet with goopy, dirty hands when you’re cooking."

Yup, but I don't need a sensor to do that -- I use my arm or elbow to work the lever. I've been doing that for decades because I wanted to keep my hands (covered in anything from raw meat blood to pieces of bread dough) from the faucet. I don't understand why the new technology was needed to so something I thought was so easy to do (i.e. turn on the water without my hands). I used to look at those commercials and think "were those people so stupid they couldn't manage that without this expensive new tech?"

"Lectric 'n plumbin' don't mix in my book.

so my plumber replaced the solenoid, that did't fix it. Got a completely new unit and it works great. I love it!

I'm about to install the Kohler Malleco touchless! I even bought the adapter. I'll let you know how it goes!

I just installed the last "touchless" faucet I'll ever install for a customer. Followed the instructions to the letter and it still didn't work properly. I wasn't in the mood to change it, so I took $200.00 off the cost of the job. I'm calling Moen on Monday; if they don't send me a check for the $200.00, I'm telling everyone that electronics and plumbing don't mix. Right out of the box.

@josehph... So sorry that's your experience. My installer had to get a replacement for mine, but now that it works, I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been in for about 8 months. I wish the manufacturers could get it right the first time.

I hate touchless faucets --> the waving in front of them to get them to turn on when they're feeling finicky. No thanks. The side of my wrist or arm works just fine to move the lever to turn the faucet on if my hands are dirty.

And I’m curious; how do you adjust the temperature on them?

It is a big deal when your hands are dirty and the d*mn faucet won't turn on!

So how useful are these things when you regularly want warm for washing hands, cold for filling up kettles, and hot for washing dishes, and changing the temp requires fiddling with it?

Not that I would really ever have considered getting one, but now I’m extra convinced that it’s a pretty useless technological advance

You change the temp the same way you do on a regular faucet. No "fiddling" required.

I guess what I mean is, that it’s only “touchless” for one temperature. Otherwise it’s like a regular faucet (but more expensive, with more complicated installation, and with electronic components that are not gonna last as long)

None of these scare stories have happened to me. I’ve had mine for almost 2 years. I leave it set on medium hot. If you need to adjust the temp, you can always at least clean your hands first, then move the lever to change temp. I pretty much only need to change it if I want cold water for coffee pot, etc, in which case my hands aren’t dirty! Ours has never turned itself on. I can’t understand why so many people who have never tried one are so negative. If you cook, you get dirty hands and it’s a great feature. It is very simple to use manually if you prefer. It turns itself off automatically after a few minutes, so no risk of it overflowing or something.

" I can’t understand why so many people who have never tried one are so negative. "

Because we don't see it as a worthwhile feature (i.e. worth spending more money on). I can't understand why you can't understand that. It's not that we don't get dirty hands, it's that we already know how to turn on our faucets without using our dirty hands.

Actually, the idea that it turns itself off after a few (4?) minutes isn't very comforting......that's a long time and a lot of wasted water. And probably enough time to overflow my sink. Of course, a safety turn off is better than no safety turn off, but I think they should shorten that to < 60 seconds.

My negativity about it is a reflection of my general frustration about things (appliances in particular) that are made now with with lots of high tech (mostly useless) features, but cheaply and crappily in the ways that really matter, so they are expected to last 6-8 years and then be replaced.

How is it that the previous generation could buy a washing machine that lasts 30 years, with parts that can easily be repaired and replaced as necessary, and these days we are grateful if our appliances last 10 years?!!

I fortunately can opt out of the “high tech” faucet, but I can’t seem to opt out of the crap washing machine!!

Hence my frustration and “negativity”.

drdeb1234 I hear you. Back in the late 70's when I was in college we did a case study on the Amana company who almost went out of business because their refrigerators lasted over 30 years. The new appliances cost more and are not made to last, let alone be fixed. The touches faucet is what I consider a luxury. The current models works just fine, but remember this was also the case with automatic windows on cars, power steering, CD's, Black & White TV's, Free TV (ABC, NBC, CBS, Public), etc. In the end it will become the norm. Have a good day.

' Free TV (ABC, NBC, CBS, Public), "

TV (except for PBS) was never free.....it was paid for by consumers providing themselves (consciously or subconsciously) to the advertisers. In the same way that website information isn't free - consumers pay for it with their information and presence to advertisers.

What does it say when luxury brands like Waterstone do not have touchless or touch-on versions of their kitchen jewelry?

Many of clients prefer solid faucets over the new ones with their fancy technology. True the tech helps a lot in daily life but at what cost? And is it a solid thing would you rather buy something that will last for decades or a tech thing that would die in the next 5 years?

A number of my customers are back to brass solid faucets such as this one here

See the faucet here

We have the Malleco model Love it. Buying another one for new home we are building.

Ya, I wish I could buy a brand new but made-in-1960 washing machine (with available replacement parts of course)

I've had some better luck with the touchless faucets I've installed recently. When you change a regular faucet, you pull the head, turn on the valves, flush the supply lines, then put the head back on. You do the same with a touchless, but the cruddy valve water that you flush has to pass through the damn faucet solenoid. If any crap hangs up inside the solenoid, the faucet drips. It'll probably stop in a week or so when the crud gets washed out. Maybe bleed the valves before attaching the supply lines next time.