Hood liner advice needed (VAH vs. Best vs. Zephyr)
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Comments (21)tanem: it's a fair question. Thanks, sjeff and stephanie for vouching for me. I am a big fan of MA--but also of other small dedicated hood companies. It is based on my personal experiences--I only began making these observations after buying my MA hood (at full price!), having already owned a VAH hood. I do feel strongly about this subject, but it's mostly because I feel I can speak to a "minority" opinion that otherwise might get drowned out by the VAH crowd. Realize that VAH sells hugely more hoods than MA, Prestige, Independent, Metallo Arts, etc. Therefore, on a forum like this, questions about "what hood should I buy" tend to be flooded with VAH owners. They are happy with their hoods, which is great, but most of them can only speak from their experience with their one VAH hood, or at most, with their VAH hood compared with their prior OTR MW or downdraft unit. Thus, the VAH looks good to them in comparison. I had the same reaction going from my lousy downdraft jenn air, to our VAH. What I can speak to, that many others cannot, is how the VAH compares to a custom product like the MA hood. Not only speaking from experience, I've even tried (perhaps amateurishly) to quantify my opinion by measuring sound levels generated by my two hoods. That is one of the few posts I know of that attempts to do more than just offer blind opinion. I will say it again, I do not have any financial stake in MA, receive no special consideration (and let me tell you, after our kitchen reno, I am NOT going to be in the market for many years to come). What I do hope is that small American companies, who still take pride in their products, will continue to compete successfully with the big corporate guys. And, I will state it again as clearly as I can: it's not just Modern-Aire! If you are looking for a hood, you really owe it to yourself to check out Prestige, Independence, and Metallo Arts too. And I am confident that there are other companies out there as well. And, finally, I would never claim that someone who in the end chooses a VAH, or a Broan, or a Viking, etc etc made a bad choice--hey, I own one! So, tanem, please take what I say with many grains of salt, but know that I'm not shilling or spamming. Thanks....See MoreFinalizing the hood choice... (Best/Zephyr/Kobe) (48/54)
Comments (8)MUA may be introduced to the kitchen in any way that doesn't cause cross-draft disruption of the rising expanding cooking plume, but not in any way that "short circuits" the ventilation by flowing into the hood in place of the plume. A diffuser in the ceiling next to the hood might violate both aspects unless the diffuser blades were oriented to force the air away from the hood along the ceiling such that the air current would follow the ceiling, wall, and floor, ultimately approaching the hood from below. There is no limit to how far away the MUA is introduced so long as there is a path to the kitchen air volume. Devious paths may require consideration of their pressure losses when analyzing the MUA performance. As for hood overlap, the principle that is being addressed is that the cooking plume (with gas jet plume where applicable) rises and expands from a hot cooking surface (and from around it when gas cooking). The plume velocity profile (and effluent per unit time profile) is mountain shaped, but the larger part is contained roughly within a 20-degree cone. (Plume shapes vary with temperature and cooking surface.) The cone half angle, then, is 10 degrees. So long as the hood collecting aperture is at least 10 degrees outside every effluent emitting point on whatever pans you use, you should obtain decent capture, barring cross drafts. Note that at 36 inches above the pans, 10 degrees is an offset of 6.45 inches. This is as I said from the pan bases (pan edges for gas flames) and not from the edge of the cooking appliance. Where this doesn't apply is at a back wall where present, and at the sides if cabinets or side skirts direct the plume upward. The hood effective aperture also grows slightly with air flow into the hood, but this is likely (at the recommended 90 ft/min) to be only a couple of inches added effective capture area. The exact behavior depends on the velocity profile of the plume vs. the velocity profile of the hood intake at the edge. (Figure 6 page 30.4 of the 2003 ASHRAE HVAC Applications Handbook provides an illustration of how quickly the hood air velocity drops past the edge.) kas...See MoreNeed Quiet and Effective Hood Liner for 59.25" Lacanche Range
Comments (11)Joe Blow-You will love your Modern Aire hood. We have a 42" 1200 cfm hood over our LaCanche Volnay and it's fantastic. Ours vents directly out the back through a 6" wall. The fan and motor aren't loud at all. We use it almost exclusively at it's lowest setting, unless searing or cooking stir fry. I've never used it at 1200 cfm. It does get loud at higher settings, but it's the movement of the air, not the machine making the noise and there's no getting away from that. One thing I will caution you on. I have propped up one of the metal "fillers" next to the baffles (there's one on each side) with a small piece of wood because it makes a whistling noise if I don't. I never called Modern Aire about it to find out a better solution or why this is happening but you might want to mention it. Despite that, I love the hood and am putting one in my new beach house kitchen this year. I especially like the infinitely variable speed and light controls and how easy it is to remove the baffles to clean them in the DW....See MoreVent-a-hood vs Wolf??? Need opinions
Comments (26)kaseki I know SZ answers their phones and normally their customer service is beyond reproach. this time I was underwhelmed by the response. It's not as if I've had this ventilations system for years. I said the spring is broken, can you please send me a new spring.. She said "send me a picture" then told me it's not broken just bent. The baffles she told me are very easy to take out. I had a couple of men friends help me as I figured I must be missing something. They did not have to stand on the ladder but ultimately had just as difficult a time to get them out and in. So it's not a "girl" thing :)) Normally they want you to fill out a survey on how they did. She did not, as most likely she realized her service was not that great. Maybe she was having a bad day. Happens! Drilling holes is doable. I have all of the equipment and a myriad of drill bits but have not had much training in the way of drilling into stainless steel. Do you drill a pilot hole? If I go to the "leaf Spring" store and buy a few, I could practice drilling holes before tackling stainless. :)) For now I guess I'll live with it. So many other things that are more urgent. This only becomes an issue every few months. Ingeborg...See MoreRelated Professionals
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