Guessing game: Can you spot Abraham Darby?
Lisa Adams
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Lucky in FL with Roses in Pots? and My Abraham Darby!
Comments (9)Hi juneroses, It will depend on how you want to grow them on which source you should order from. If you want to just keep them in pots you could try own rootstock or grafted to non-fortuniana root stock varieties. If you plan to keep them in the ground long term and have nematodes then you may want to get them grafted onto fortuniana root stock. You can research more on this on the florida and rose forums and decide how you want to proceed. There are lots of different sources for DA roses besides just the DA website. There are a few places that do graft the DA roses onto fortuniana root stock. Two of them are K&M Roses and Cool Roses. For own root stock DA roses at lower prices that are usually smaller plants than the bare root roses and come in small pots. There is Chamblees Roses Nursery. Roses Unlimited also has them. If you do a google search you can find more. David Austin website also has own root and grafted onto non fort. root stock that are sold as bare root larger plants. If you sign up for a mail catalog from them they may send you a coupon code to use on your order. Finally some DA roses do better in the heat than others. I did some research on the rose forums to see which would probably work for me. I don't mind experimenting a little either lol. Usually the ones that stay smaller are better for pots but obviously a lot of people are growing the larger ones in pots and they are doing okay. If you keep them trimmed and can get it out to replenish the potting soil every few years they can do well. Hope this helps. I hope others can add some more sources and ideas for you. ~SJN...See MoreWhat other roses are there that are D.A. look alikes?
Comments (102)@Diane Brakefield I was reading through some of the older comments, and I just have a question on your Colette rose. Do you recommend it as a climber? Is it pretty free blooming for you or is it rather stingy? I’m just looking for a really pretty climber with nice blooms and likes to flower. I had my heart set on Eden, but after reading some comments on it tending to be stingy in colder climates, I might lower it from the coveted #1 position on my most-wanted list hahaha (if any other cold climate folks have personal favorites they’d recommend, lemme know!)...See MoreAbraham Darby
Comments (13)Uh-oh, don't get me started talking about Abe! He's what got me involved in Austins. Five years ago, when I moved to house with a larger yard and had the room to start growing roses, I visited the local public rose garden. There was the Austin section which was a bit run down, with mostly older Austins and many of the labels were gone. There was one rose that caught my eye every time I saw it in bloom. It had a delicious fragrance, but it wasn't labelled. The closest label was 'The Reeve'. I kept an eye on it for the next year, and although it did get mildew and balled in the rain, I kept coming back to it. It didn't look like the photos of 'The Reeve' on the web. I finally discovered the rose forum and in 2015 posted the question. Rick and Hoovb immediately suggested Abraham Darby. Although I had been eyeing photos of Abe in books for years, none of those photos looked like the globular/cupped blossoms that I was seeing at the rose garden. Fearful that they were renovating the garden and might remove it, when they were deadheading, I obtained a deadhead and rooted it. I also bought a potted Abe from the local nursery. The potted one: It looked similar, but not quite. I still wasn't sure. Planted in the garden, it was miserable, wilting and droopy as soon as the sun hit it. Also much more orange than the flowers I was hoping for. I removed it. Meanwhile, my little cutting grew and produced a little flower... ...which was orange! Not pink like the parent plant. And the one in the rose garden bloomed like this that year: The next year, 2016, my cutting (planted in a better spot than the first one I purchased, when I realized that the reason the first one was in a rain shadow) produced flowers like this... ...and then like this... ...and then like this: Okay, now I was pretty sure it was Abraham Darby. I bought two more form DA roses this year. So far, my little Abes have not had gangly or lax canes. You can see from the first photo that the Abe at the public rose garden is small and bushy. I think that is the effect of this climate, with the intense sun and heat. Maybe in a few years and better nutrition, I'll get a little more growth from them. Maybe you can try yours in your sunniest part of your garden? You shouldn't have any problems with lack of moisture like I have, and Abe likes having water, that's for sure. From April this year: Flowers nod a bit, but that's one of the reasons I love them....See MoreIntroducing my new garden & Abraham Darby
Comments (27)Haha! Titian - I really laughed at the description of your "feral" hollyhock! I could just picture it in my mind!! Do you have a photo? I'd love to see it! Yes, my hollyhocks have been a LOT of bother too. As I said, they've had rust and spider mites and white flies and every-other-pest-in-the-garden... the lower leaves turn yucky & yellow and fall off, leaving bare knees... and the individual flowers only really last a day... but still, I really love them. :-) I've cut down all the big "first" stalks now as I read online that this will encourage new - shorter - stalks to grow from the base and that seems to be working. So hopefully I'll get another crop of flowers before the summer is over. Do you know if they'll flower again next year? Should I leave them in the ground or dig them up and start again with new seedlings for next year? I know normally, they're biennials so you leave them the first year - but mine have all flowered now in their first year so I don't know if that means they're finished? Oh, I'd LOVE to try and teas and other OGR's but sadly, I think I'm already running out of garden space. At least, of the prime spots for roses... I really only have a tiny garden, with very narrow beds. . Kristine - thank you for the compliment! :-) I'm sad to report that I had a look at my Abraham Darby yesterday and oh dear - he DOES have some blackspot on the lower leaves!! :-( It's only very little and the overall bush is still very green & healthy and he's blooming again... but it's a bit ominous that he's doing this in hot, dry, summer weather. So it seems everybody is right about his disease susceptibility. Just thought I'd let you know so you're prepared - I hope he does well for you, though! ~ HY...See Morevesfl (zone 5b/6a, Western NY)
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