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Comments (22)I am sure that there is something to the bird flu passing to humans, I know that I would be devestated if it somehow hit my family in a fatal way. But I am sure also that there is a lot of hype. News media is all about the dollar and what headlines and hysteria can sell. I do not equate my having chickens in my backyard to having 3 million birds, I don't make my living on them, but our eggs and chicken meat make for huge part of my family's diet. Having chickens is a very large part of our lifestyle. In my mind, they are a security blanket. I know that sounds silly but I guess you would have to know where I am coming from to fully understand. Anyway given all this, I am terrified of having my chickens taken from me and destroyed, without true cause. A couple of years ago, we had people coming around and testing everyones flocks, that was before I had chickens. But I remember that the kids who were showing chickens all had their birds tested and they didn't find any deseased birds, were allowed to show away from the regular show grounds, but were not allowed to sell their birds, and all the complete flocks were destroyed after the show. It made me sick and furious. I live in a county that has an extremely high commercial poultry farm population. I feel that this is the real reason for this kind of action. I can appreciate the original thoughts behind this but feel that this type of action often feeds the frenzie. My fear is that this sort of thing is going to affect the small family farm operations in the long run. I predict that the commercial industry is going to end up getting laws passed to keep families and individuals from having their own backyard flocks. Then next we will not be aloud to keep one or two or 10 cows. It will be rights exclusive to the commerical operations. This truly frightens me, and I don't want to live here in this country if that should happen. Quite often it is the practices at these commercial operations that lead to devestating problems anyway, e-coli(cow lot grainfed cows with poor sanitation in butcher plants), mad cow (feeding downer cow by-products to cows)and all sorts of bird illnesses that thrive in the 1 ft or more deep chicken litter that build up until those birds are ready to butcher, approx every 6 weeks. These are signs that systems need to be rethought, but it will be the country family that pays. I have decided to drastically downsize my flock to just a few birds so that I might be able to build up again after all this passes. I would rather sell and/or butcher most of my flock now than lose everything later. I still hope for the best....See Morearticle link...fda approves first gmo flu vaccine
Comments (34)Common sense, Eric. Still, you can't provide proof that there is such a thing as "prevention" using vaccines. When polio ran its course, THEN modern medicine came out with "vaccines" and said "Look what we've cured!!" You can't possibly quantify nor qualify those kinds of smoke and mirrors. But modern medicine wants to take credit for "curing" a disease that had already finished running its course. Spanish influenza ran its course. Biggest cause was social stress in the aftermath of WWI and poor nutrition. Not some virus. Remember, figures lie. And liars figure. Modern medicine is chasing its tail. Besides, one last dig at modern medicine: Vaccine use is based on the germ theory of disease. But I proved with deductive reasoning a long time ago that germs don't cause any disease. (Another subject entirely.) So, again, Eric. the vaccine therapies are built on an erroneous assumption. Remember the Welhausen Theory of Higher Criticism. If a theory is built on erroneous assumptions, then the whole theory has to be thrown out. HerbDoctor...See MoreNobody's mentioned the threatening flu pandemic
Comments (51)The news media is really good about making too much of something in order to increase viewers. Maybe they're doing it again, it's hard to tell since they've done it so much in the past. This is not to say I'm not concerned, though. It's just that I think we shouldn't panic. When the swine flu vaccine was offered, years earlier, I felt it had been thrown together too quickly and I didn't think it was wise to get innoculated. It was a wise choice as later I heard people were dying or having severe permanent disabilities because of it. My family and I do go and get a flu shot every year and have for years, though. My dad was five years old when his father died during the Spanish flu epidemic in Iola, KS. In 1918, people had very little medical care. Dad's dad was never placed in the hospital, because there wasn't one anywhere near, and he was treated with home remedies because there were no medicines. Even at the age of 90, my dad would get tears in his eyes when he would talk about the day his dad died. It was a scarey time, with people burying their loved ones every day. It seemed like the healthiest people were the ones who died. I have read that that particular strain of flu was airbourne and people who caught it were those who were outside the most. There was a huge flu epidemic in the 1700's in Germany. My German ancestors came to America after losing most of their family to it, thinking they would be safe from the flu if they left Germany. Even less treatment for it in those days, but at least people were further apart from one another. Once it got into your family, though, that was it for many of the other members as well. Truly, the flu has done a lot to change history. Like was said earlier, had people not died, many of us would not be here. I wouldn't, had my ancestors stayed in Germany. And my Dad's dad was getting ready to move his family to another state. Had they moved, my dad wouldn't have met my mom. Bottom line is, I'm a Christian and I'm not afraid to die. Death to me is just going to the next stage. Yes, I'll be grieved if I survive but lose my loved ones but life on this earth is a crap-shoot anyway. Death catches up to all of us sooner or later, whether it be flu, war, crime, or crossing the street in front of a beer truck. Take normal precautions, and stay calm....See MoreInfluenza: What To Do and When!!!
Comments (29)4 kids, I really encourage folks to get the vaccine ever year for a couple of reasons. This year they said it might cover only 10% of cases once flu season started in Australia because they use that experience on another continent on the other side of the earth to predict what we might see as the seasons reverse. A doctor here said last week that they are seeing a pretty good coverage by the vaccine -- 40-50%. So you don't know until we are into the flu season which strains will be most active -- and you may or may not get hit by one of those. Second, even if you are exposed to a flu strain not in the current vaccine, having several strains each year for a period of years gives you body a larger group of antibodies that know how to fight a number of strains, not just a few. That means that you can still get flu, but not get as sick as someone who doesn't get shots or only gets them occasionally. I got the flu shot originally for the benefit of my parents and because I was in the schools a lot. I was among 2,500 students. another 2-300 faculty, plus family and friends during football and marching season as well as people at the places I was with my parents. That may not be a scientifically significant study, but year after year, that's what I have seen. My sons saw it too, and where they used to think it was silly, they go get the flu shot on their own now....See More- 8 years ago
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