New 6A climbing rose help.
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witchygirrl6bwv
6 years agoRelated Discussions
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Comments (41)Looks like a great list, AC91z6! You should have fun with those roses (including the Firefighter you replaced for the sold out Munstead Wood. Glad I could help talk you into Felix LeClerc. My Therese Bugnet is 7 years old own root from Burling and it prime full sun. I really can't say I'd recommend her at all, and I toy with digging out Therese and her nearby companion Fimbriata (Bear in mind that I've only deliberately shovel pruned 3 roses out of 1000 to put this into perspective, though of course I've had 100's die without my help). They have only sporadic bloom for about 2 weeks but TONS of vegetative growth that does virtually nothing. So far they've been spared the shovel because they're such early bloomers, but they're getting the interim treatment of pruning them almost to the ground after bloom. That's what I do for Variegata di Bologna and I've occasionally been able to coax a little fall bloom out of him this way. I kept leaving TB and Fimbriata at full height thinking surely they'd rebloom when mature, but 7 years is too long to wait for that. Linda Campbell is a vastly superior rugosa in my zone, and our climates are similar. Karen, glad to help with the cheap and easy idea about the pots. Note that these are not rabbit proof since the bunnies have learned to nudge the pots over if they really want what's inside, and they can nibble at what extends beyond the pots as well. My pots are the black gallon ones Roses Unlimited sells so they're a bit at risk for burning foliage in the really hot parts of summer (assuming you get spells of 90+ for long). I'll often pull back the pots by July or so if the rose gets up to a good height. Green would be less noticeable in the landscape, but like you I have soooo many pots after a history of large orders from RU and elsewhere that I need to use what I have. Here's a shot of a shade bed showing two of those pots - one with a tiny rose on the left not visible below the pot and one on the right that's peeking beyond. If I get a lot of them in a bed they look a little odd, but this many of them look acceptable to me (at least better than missing roses that the bunnies ate). Cynthia...See MoreClematis and/or Climbing Rose for Wood Fence - zone 6a
Comments (5)Type 2 clematis are a bit more challenging to grow than type 3 which are bulletproof in my experience. You are correct that they will want a support structure other than the fence so that they are growing in front of the fence. The trellis should have pieces that are not much larger than pencil width in diameter since they grow by twining the leaf stems. Large slatted trellises an inch or more wide tend to be difficult for the clematis to grab. A few type 2 clematis that I have found relatively easy are Guernsey Cream, a creamy white, and HF Young a mid lavender-blue which varies a lot in how it looks, depending on the light hitting it at different times of the day. Another one, Piilu aka Little Duckling (the translation of the Polish original name) is pink, and is the only one I have ever seen a second bloom on, though it is typically fewer than 5 flowers if any. I never get double blooms here, only single flowers, due to the plant being killed back in winter and losing the flower buds formed the previous year. Flowers on new wood of most doubles tend not to be double (extra petals for additional fullness). Here my growing season is too short for type 2s to bloom twice. They typically are killed back to the snow line here in central NH, so get pruned back like the type 3s. They bloom in late May while the type 3s bloom in summer. I don’t know whether your area will allow for full double blooms or not. The longest blooming clematis I have is a type 3, Rooguchi, which has dark purple-blue bells. It doesn’t climb (basically a tall, lax stemmed perennial) and grows to about 6’ in my garden, so I grow it up the middle of a metal obelisk.I get about 6 weeks of July and August bloom on my mature plant....See MoreA climbing rose that brings you joy? (Zone 6a)
Comments (90)Magpie, I don't remember that well how many feet the canes looked bare...I think it was at least 3'. Yes, there are trade offs for being in a dry climate. I think an own root Alchymist might not be as huge . Mine was an ungainly grower...sent out very long stiff canes. I still liked it. A climber I bought this spring is John Cabot. I think Frances in NJ's plant is gorgeous. Another couple of climbers I like but which are not very big plants: Penny Lane...seems to be a tough plant Courageous Love Polka... mine has been in a lot of shade but still is healthy and blooms and grows. I put another one in more sun to replace dwindling MAdame Alfred....See MoreOverwintering band roses in zone 6a??
Comments (13)Cynthia, I have been (knock on wood) pretty lucky re: voles and mice. I've never had them go after my over-wintering pot ghetto; I think if I did, though, my first step would be to just remove the straw, since my guess is the warmth there would be what they are after. I do have some climbers in big pots that live right next to my house year-round. I used to pile straw all up the plants, but one year I did get vole damage there. So anymore, I mound a little straw around the base of the pots, but not reaching up to the surface, and that seems, so far, ok. I'm actually not sure I even need the straw there - most of these climbers are rated to zone 3 or 4, and anyway, right next to the house like that they are probably pretty sheltered. Btw, I second the suggestion to be particularly careful with Mel. I've had him here in zone 6 for many years, and he's huge and thriving. But he's in a pretty sheltered spot right next to the house, and in his first 2 winters I protected him (mounded straw and a leaf-bag "cone"). I have a little Mel that I'm experimenting with in a non-sheltered spot. He got through his first winter (last winter) fine, with protection. I'm going to protect him again this winter, and then in the 3rd winter, leave him to fend for himself. In my experience, 2 winters seems to be the magic number to protect slightly less than bone hardy roses. If Mel can't survive in that spot after 2 years of protection to become established, then I'll decide that I can only realistically grow him in sheltered spots (which I'm running out of, so that will mean a second Mel is not in the cards for me)....See More
monta_6a
6 years ago
dublinbay z6 (KS)
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI grew Golden Showers for years--long before I had any idea how to grow roses. So let me assure you that that is one tough plant that can largely take care of itself. It has some rambler in its background, so feel free to let it ramble--that way the branches will naturally extend outward and help produce more blooms. The one thing I noticed about GS is that it likes regular watering. Any time it quit producing blooms, all I had to do was give it a good watering, and voila--blooms.
The negative side of GS is that the blooms are not good at holding their shape and don't last very long. But they are so abundant and cheerfully yellow that I never noticed that much from a distance. Don't know how that will be for you with it planted closer to where you will view it.
Golden Showers--probably 6-10 years old.
You will have to spray it periodically with a fungicide. Definitely does have some problems with blackspot, but not the worst one in the world.
I'm inclined to think your planter box may not be large enough. My GS threw long canes 7-10 feet in the air and then arched , extending out sideways. For support, I put a strong metal rod securely in the ground--it was maybe 6 ft tall and attached a cheap fanshaped trellis (about 5 ft tall) to the rod and attached GS (in fanshape) to the trellis--but the long canes extended way beyond the trellis.
It got RRD disease after about 12 years and I had to dig it up. I seem to remember that the roots went quite deep and spread rather wide.
As for winter protection, I didn't do anything to protect it. It might have received a bit of protection from the leaves blowing over from the big oak tree in my neighbor's yard, but that would have been minimal. Like I said, it is tough.
If I had room, I might want to plant it again. It used to get good comments from visitors to the garden.
Kate
dublinbay z6 (KS)
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoFound a couple more older pics of Golden Showers:
You can get more sense of its sprawl here (but ignore the neighbor's mess I was hoping to block out).
Here you can see Molineux in the foreground--about 3.5 ft tall--and Golden Showers to the rear right side of the photo. Gives you an idea of its height.
Here is the Golden Showers bloom looking its best. Unfortunately it flops open within a day, so don't plant GS for the shape of its bloom!
Kinda fun digging out my old GS photos. I kinda miss this rambler now.
Good luck with yours.
Kate
monta_6a
6 years agowitchygirrl6bwv
6 years ago
Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
6 years ago
Moses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA