how to add grounding or rewire 1941 house
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Comments (13)"Making sure you have polarized receptacles (larger blade for the neutral side) is more useful, and can be done without changing any permanent wiring in the wall. " That's already done. The 3 outlets I am adding are for the office (computer), the home theater PC, and a GFCI circuit for the fish tank (which is currently being annoying in the kitchen.) Otherwise I really can't think of any other places it's necessary to have a grounded outlet. "1982 Nm cable should have plastic insulation on the wires (older stuff can be rubber) and unless overheated by a light fixture should be fine." The house was cabled in 1962. The cable is copper and looks like it is wrapped in cloth; the insulation is probably rubber. Now the 60c vs. 90c thing is confusing. *NO* UL listed fixtures are sold now which are rated for 60c. If I understand my research correctly, that means no fixtures in the house can be safely replaced without at least partially rewiring those lines? I have a lot of fixtures I want to replace, but not right now. Also, do I now need to worry about the flush-mount schoolhouse fixtures they installed in the kitchen? Not only are they enclosed, but it gets super hot here in Alabama up in that attic. "It is simple to add another box in an attic to feed the fixture box with 90C wire from a from or so away. " But I still guess it'll be $100 each. That adds up in a hurry....See MoreRewiring house
Comments (10)RE: >> I have seen that my wiring insulation is in bad order and needs repair; it's fabric covered copper, some of it conduit, none of it 3 wire. Cloth covered wire can be a nightmare. My then new girlfriend asked if I could replace a light fixture in her bathroom. A couple of days later I had rewired most of her house. :-) In that situation, the conduit is the ground. When you say "some of it is in conduit" do you mean that there is also some kind of cable like Romex? In many places where you see conduit, non-metallic cable is a no-no although metal clad cable like AC or MC is allowed in certain situations (generally retrofits were running new conduit isn't practical or for short distances like fixture whips). Although some jurisdictions have relaxed the restrictions on the use of conduit and even allow non-metallic cable. Your local building code folks can answer that question. Physically pulling wires and making up new connections isn't the most complicated work in the world but it has to be done right. Certainly there are any number of books on the subject but there's no way to know if a book or two would cover everything you'd need to know. Obviously it is impossible for anyone here to gauge your skill level. The other part is that codes have changed in the 40+ years since your home was build. I'd think that the local building inspector would like to see things brought up to code as you do the rewiring. That will likely require additional circuits that you're new panel may or may not have room for. A friend with electrical experience might be a good place to start......See MoreHow to add create new electrical outlets in a 1920 house
Comments (5)Ask your electrician if they could run two new 12/3 wires for two new Multi-Wire Branch Circuits (MWBC) from the panel to the attic. You could also run four new 12/2 wires, but its probably easier to fit the two 12/3 wires. You will need four open breaker positions. That would give you the ability to have four new circuits that terminate in the attic, which should be more than enough for a reasonable sized house. Each circuit can handle 20 amps. However, you need to determine what the A/C units require if you plan to share the new circuits between the A/C and standard convenience receptacles. Then have them wire the new receptacles on interior walls or other walls where its easy to snake the wire from the attic down into the wall. Bruce...See MoreHow likely is it that the whole house will have to be rewired?
Comments (9)Thank you all for your replies! @Dave, I googled the cables you talked about and I think some of the updated wiring is BX cable, but when he was in the attic, the contractor specifically mentioned that the wiring was "old" and "cloth-wrapped". Also, it's not a matter of cheaping out--rewiring the whole house is something we can't afford right now. We don't want to gamble with our lives although apparently we've been gambling for years now, and so we were trying to approach it from the point of "what can we do for now that we can afford that is minimally intrusive". @Seabornman Thank you. I know that for this type of thing what we really need is a quote from an electrician (or several quotes from several electricians) but they're difficult to get hold of and the ones we've spoken to in the past couldn't be bothered with something small like just replacing/grounding a few outlets (makes sense though that it's not worth their time and they need bigger jobs). So the next best thing was to try to research, and then ask the internet to try to get an idea of what to expect. What you said about moving/disturbing a wire and the insulation possibly being damaged (or possibly being fine) sounds like what the one contractor may have mentioned, but neither of us could remember that specific bit about the insulation until you said so. Thanks!...See Moreraee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio
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