Wolf 48" DF Range--8 burners or griddle?
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Comments (22)cmcvey, Consider what is best for the way you cook. One of the biggest things as you have noted is the flexibility of 6 vs 4 burners. You may still be able to use the griddle as a warming area. Here are few more considerations advantages of an add on griddle -much more heat --2x15-25K vs 15-18K for a built-in -able to change out different griddles that have different properties You can use a thick aluminum griddle if you need even heat. It weighs less, too, for the same thickness. Many people view the aluminum griddle as less in quality because it is lighter but it heats much more quickly and evenly and it responds much more quickly to turning it up and down. You can buy them that are coated and nonstick or uncoated. The uncoated becomes seasoned and more nonstick as you use it but not as quickly as steel or cast iron. An alumunum griddle can be bigger over 2 burners because of the heat conduction properties. This one is the one I have over two burners and is is 15"x23" (345 sq inches). Chef King makes one in steel that is almost as big but might have a little more difference in the way of cooler and hotter areas which is a good thing for many people. The built in might be 11.5"x22" or23"(253-264 sq inches) Royal Griddle advantages for a built in -stability You can get a little more stability on an overlay that is somewhat fitted but it is heavier and the fitted part might vary -You might get a thicker metal. Wolf has 3/4". This will take a lot longer to heat and adjust. -you can more easily get reproducible level of heat every time you turn it on Cleaning is subjective....See More36' DF Wolf vs 48' AG Thermador please help!
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Comments (7)We recently remodeled our kitchen. It was a full gut job, and the kitchen moved to a different location. We replaced all the old appliances. But to answer your question on whether we'd make the same choices for the range again? Yes, the Bluestar 30" RNB range was the only appliance that we kept from the old kitchen. It's now almost ten years old. I cleaned it thoroughly and replaced a couple of parts that were worn; and it's as good as new. We love this range. I wouldn't buy anything else. The burners are as close to commercial burners as you can get. And the oven works very evenly and reliably. Easy to get used to. The only downside is that it takes a long time to preheat (at least 20min). That's just a result of having such a big oven cavity. Even the 30" range holds a full commercial sheet. So, we are very happy that we also got 24" Miele CSO and SpeedOvens. They do a wonderful job supplementing our kitchen tools. In fact, if I had to give you one piece of advice then it would be to shrink your 48" range to 30" or 36". I personally don't see much use in having such a big appliance; too many trickle-down consequences for the overall design that don't make sense to me. Then buy a CSO from the money that you saved. You won't regret it. Ideally get the plumbed model. I see the theoretical appeal of a griddle, but in practice I have had much more mixed luck with it. I'd instead recommend buying a high-quality overlay griddle and the supplementing with a nice 14" round-bottom carbon steel wok and a couple of high-quality carbon steel skillets. Thanks to the great flame pattern on the Bluestar, you might discover that the combination of wok and skillet makes the skillet obsolete for 80% of what you'd normally use it for. As for the range as a whol, I have recently had a chance to cook on an old commercial Wolf range from way back before Wolf sold their residential division. It's such a fun appliance to work with, and it honestly feels a lot like cooking on my Bluestar. But it's nothing like modern residential Wolf ranges. I think they have dumbed down the design much to the detriment of some of the core functionality....See More
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6 years agoAs said above, you do not have the choice of 8 burners with Wolf DF. The DF also has another issue, chipping blue enamel in the ovens. Search on this forum for more about that. They have designed the newer M wall oven with a replaceable bottom to make it easier to fix but have not done anything to the ranges.
If you are looking for 8 burners, the Wolf all gas does have them and no blue enamel. I would also look at BlueStar if you would consider all gas.
It is not a matter of built in griddle vs no griddle. What are you using now? You can always use an overlay griddle if you get 8 burners. You have the option of using all burners if you need them. They lift off to clean.
You have a choice of materials and sizes.
Heavy guage aluminum, provides more even heat and is lighter weight. Bare aluminum will season over time or aluminum griddles come in nonstick. You can have a bigger griddle, 15x23 because of the better heat transfer of the aluminum. It will heat faster and adjust temperature quickly.
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Heavy steel and cast iron
This is heavier but will season easily. It does not have the heat transfer properties of aluminum so may have cooler areas, but some people like that to hold food when it is finished cooking. Chef King makes a steel one.
The single is 14x23 and double is 23x23 but I could barely lift it so would have to go with two 14x23 if I needed the space.
The Wolf built in griddle has a cooking surface of roughly 11x21 and is 1/2 rolled steel, which seasons easily but takes much longer to heat up or change temperatures. It has an infrared burner so a more even source of heat. This is not true if all built in griddles. It is 15K BTUs for each two burners. You will have 2 times that or more on the overlay. It will depend on what the burners are. The Wolf griddle will be more stable because it is built in.
There are overlays that look more built in but the fit might be more of an issue.
Another advantage of the built in griddle is the thermostat so setting the temperature is more reproducible.
Another option is just buying a separate electric griddle. These are typically aluminum and you can get one that works pretty good. You have the thermostat and very even heating on a good one. They maybe don't have the panache of a built in griddle but they are easy and get the job done.
There is no one answer. There are fans of all of these options. It really depends on how you would use it, how often and what you think is easier to clean.
I have the Royal Industries griddle and like it and I have 14" and down cast iron skillets too. I also have a thinner griddle (nonstick aluminum) left over from another range that is good too but I don't really like nonstick unless low heat.
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