1 of 3 Fukushu T-Buds still green after 14 days.
poncirusguy6b452xx
6 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago
Bud from Leaf node 53 off of seed grown Fukushu kumquat tree is still green after 2 weeks. Rootstock C35
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6b Steve
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tom1328732
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoSteve,
Congratulations! I know how difficult grafting is for you, so job well-done! I generally do the sever-half-and-bend approach. I did a little experiment this spring and tried two approaches: a clean cut above the graft before budding and a partial cut/bend. Despite my small sample size (~6 clean versus ~7 bend), in every case and accounting for graft variety, the bend was more vigorous. The difference was not huge, though. It was convincing enough for me to take this approach in my 2nd and 3rd grafting batches.
Here are a few pictures to illustrate what I do (note that these are not all the same trees):
^ Fresh cut above a Kishu mandarin (this batch of budwood was 90% successful) :)
^ Same tree farther away
^ Same tree even farther away with a cat leg for scale
^ A Meiwa showing growth progress before I tie a stake to it
^ A Shiranui after culling the rootstock bend
^ Graft union of that tree
Hope this helps some!
-Tom
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6 years agoThanks Dave and Tom I will be following your feed back in a week after my bud has had 3 weeks to heal in place.
got a better picture. My camera was working better tonight.
6b Steve
sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
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6 years agoJohn It is just the opposite for me. I am grafting as low as possible to both limit the overall hight of the tree and limit the length of rootstock that can send up sucker. I have limited head room so I want trees that branch and fruit as low to the roots as possible.
I will leave this taped for a month longer as I did my last graft.
6b Steve
poncirusguy6b452xx
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoMy grafted Fukushu get * hours of direct sunlight then it comes inside to get 8 hours of lamp light on the bud. This along with the cut rootstock top makes sure that only the bud grows.
8-19-17
My grafting success rate just jumped from 0.75% up to 1.5%.
6b Steve
Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoI will leave it on until next spring . It will serve well in the setup to hold this tree with 5 meiwa kumquat trees.
I will have the trees set up in and enclosed reflector housing with a light over top. The C35 will receives less light than the scion and only the scion will grow All these trees will be in 5 gallon buckets and will fit in a 3 foot diameter enclosure. I have a 3 bulb holder that will go over top to shine down.; If the C35 acts up I will remove it and cut it up into a lot of cuttings to root. I will get as much out of the C35 to benefit the Fukushu scion.
Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoTransplanted into a 4.5 gallon bucket
shoot filled out at 15 inches tall..
12 light over 9 trees above.
I will have 9 trees indoors so I will be using my 2 story light box fo the trees
I will grow beets for fresh greens and heat for the floor of the citrus tree part of the light box
Steve.
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoFukushu on C35 is now under my bucket light.
with lots of new growth.
Steve
sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
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6 years agoCenter tree is 3 months 3 week 4 days old since I untaped the grafted Fukushu bud on C35 rootstock.
The trees to each side are seed grown Meiwa kumquat trees that are 10 months 3 week 2 days old since the seed sprouted and broke soil.
No contest
Steve
Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
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6 years agoAphid infestation killed the leading bud on the new growth. The new growth will harden off and eventually grow again.
Steve
sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
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5 years agoUpdate on Fukushu on C35
grafted with bud node 53 from seed grown Fukushu.
Steve
poncirusguy6b452xx
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoUpdate. Now in a 30 gallon pot and on the ground for easy moving indoors in a month or 2
14 month old seed grown Fukushu has grown none since mid June. It is however very healthy and she/he grows mainly in the winter cold months,Steve
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoI forgot to count the nodes today but I found
2 flower buds
These are this tree's first flowers.
Steve
sunshine (zone 6a, Ontario,Canada)
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoThorn node count 103 on tallest 2 branchs. There are 3 more flower buds forming as of this morning.
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