What happens when you get 4 inches of rain in 2 hours........
Julia WV (6b)
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A nice 2+ hour long rain last evening
Comments (12)Sigh, maybe 1/64th of an inch in a passing "spit" not a shower, not a sprinkle. I'm envious, so very envious. I bought a rain barrel today. Our first. We already irrigate with reclaimed water, but this will help supplementing when I water the patio potted plants. I think I'll buy another if there's enough room to hook the two together. Although if it keeps like this, it will just be a big, brown, plastic barrel good for nothing better than giving the lizards a place to fight for territory over....See MorePlz help - 3/4 inch vs 1/2 inch
Comments (8)Obviously none of the people who have responded have even a remote clue about how to properly size a line. When designing a potable water distribution system you begin by selecting all the end use fixtures to determine what the end use load will be. In the case of the original post they want a shower head, body sprays, a hand shower and possibly a rain shower head. Quote:"How many fixtures will you have on at any one time? Remember that 3/4" pipe has double the capacity of 1/2" pipe." Code requires that we design a potable water system for a worst case scenario. The system must be capable of maintaining the code listed minimum fixture "Dynamic head pressure" even when every fixture in the house is turned on at the same time. The statement that a 3/4" pipe has twice the capacity of a 1/2" pipe is not true. The capacity, or properly the volume of flow is determined by the size of the metering orifice in the end use fixture. It is true that a 3/4" line has double the cross sectional area of a 1/2" line however both will supply the same volume, the difference being that the velocity of flow will be twice as fast in the 1/2" pipe. The problem here is that as the velocity of flow increases the "fiction head pressure loss" increases dramatically. In addition to the loss of pressure due to friction head if the velocity of flow exceeds 8fps we start seeing sever pipe wall erosion, which leads to premature pipe failure. In fact, while acidic water is the leading cause of pin hole failure in copper pipe, excessive velocity in undersized pipe is the second leading cause of pinholes. Preferably we should have the end use fixture data available when designing the system but in situations where that information is not yet available we use the gal/min flow rates that are published in the code. Now getting back to the original question. All the end use fixtures in question are types of shower heads and per code shower heads are restricted to 2.5gpm so let us begin putting it all in perspective. Using the code standard of 2.5gpm we get shower head (2.5gpm), hand shower (2.5gpm) and body sprays (2.5gpm)equals and a hand shower(2.5gpm) for a total load of 10gpm. Consulting the "Type L Copper Friction Loss Table" we find that if we supply this shower with a 1/2" line the velocity of flow would be 13.80ft/sec and the pressure loss would be 67.72psi/100ft of pipe. If we increase the pipe size to 3/4" the velocity of flow is 6.62ft/sec and a pressure loss of 11.17psi/100ft....See MorePool dropping 1 1/2 inches every 24 hours
Comments (3)brianrowe - I talked to someone recently from Alabama that had a similar problem. She had not run the pool for a few years because of a leak. What they did was dig out the area behind both AquaGenies and found that the material there (clay - their builder hadn't properly backfilled) was damp. She called me and I told her that there are a few "failure" points on that piece. It could be the plumbing, it could be at the faceplate (doubtful) or it be in the "other place." Your AG is actually made of three parts glued together - the "other place" is where the inlet from the pool passes the weir and goes into the leaf basket. Most of the time, the failure point is right behind the weir. When Sherry ran the pump and looked under the AG, she said that it was like a river was pouring out. So, if they can't find the source of the leak, my suggestion would be to check and see if the water is leaking from the underside of the AG. If the water line doesn't sink below the AG, that is probably your failure point. Steps to fix the above problem: 1. Rip out the weir (you'll probably break it - don't worry as they're cheap) 2. Get some epoxy, and spread it on the lip that is behind the weir (you'll probably have to stick your head down into the AG to see, or feel around with your hand) You MUST put the epoxy on the inside, as the pressure will force it off if applied to the outside of the AG. 3. Let sit overnight and check again. If you ripped up concrete (like Sherry did) to find the problem, you'll have to fix that. If your builder didn't use non-expansive material (pea gravel, etc) then you'll want to replace the material around your AG, as that could have been one of the reasons of failure. Let me know what you find out. Ted P.S. I'm including the link to the manufacturer of the AG so you can see the internals. Click on the three pictures there to see larger views. Here is a link that might be useful: AG pictures...See More4 inches of rain and micro tornado- flooded basement in week 2
Comments (16)I'm so sorry. Flooded basements are such a shock. I'm a brand new member, this is my first post. In Lower Alabama we were inundated with heavier than usual rain and our new (to us) renovation building flooded last week. Bunch of tools got wet but no family keepsakes. It was city street run off water and came up our 3 floor drain holes. We now have rubber plugs in each of those holes but won't know how secure they are till another heave rain. Hope your basement will dry out ok. We have 6 inch ceramic tile basement flooring which could be over a hundred years old. At least the old cracked grout allowed it to drain....See Morelilykate7a
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