Cactus roots & soil ingredients that retain water
argreen73 (North Florida/Zone 8b)
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tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
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Soil ingredient composition - Am I getting it right?
Comments (3)Nothing to quarrel with in your 1-8 list, but I would mention that perlite & vermiculite are very different in their effect on aeration. Perlite is actually a form of porous glass that is made from a mineral called obsidian (or an aluminum silicate rock). It's heated and kind of popped like popcorn. Vermiculite is mica that is treated in much the same way. Trapped moisture expands and creates lots of air pores in both products. In soils, perlite promotes drainage and improves porosity. It's also effective for starting seeds & cuttings. Actually, perlite holds quite a bit of water @ about 3/4 quart per gallon of perlite. The dry weight of perlite is about 7 lbs/cu ft. Wet, it weighs about 18 lbs for the same volume, so it holds more than 2-1/2 times it's weight in water. Vermiculite is about the same density, and has a even higher capacity for holding water and a very high cation exchange capacity. It also contains magnesium and potassium that are available for plant uptake, but it is not very durable and will compress if handled when wet. It also has a slightly higher pH than perlite. You probably should not depend on vermiculite for aeration as it collapses and loses its loft very easily. When I occasionally use it, I try to limit its presence in container soils to less than 10% of the total volume. Will Turface, sand, perlite and/or vermiculite add any nutrients/minerals as they break down? I would consider them inert, except for vermiculite, which can add some K and Mg. A couple of sites state that the optimal pH range for the solubility of certain minerals is between 5.0-5.5. I am just curious if this is only for very specific kinds of plants? And if not, why is a pH of 6.5-7.0 most recommended. I'll try not to complicate this, but some plants are able to add ions to the soil, changing soil solution pH to make other needed ions more readily available. We know there is a 'sweet spot' for mineral soils at around 6.2 - 6.7. I've always preferred to grow in a more acidic container soil. I even often add elemental S to certain soils to lower pH. Indoors, I add vinegar to my irrigation water at every watering. "Solubility of mineral nutrients are affected by substrate pH. Iron, manganes, boron, copper, and zinc are most soluble when pH is above 5.0 and below 5.5. On the contrary, as pH increases greater than 6.5, the availability of iron, manganese, boron, copper, and zinc decrease and micronutrient deficiencies symptoms begin to appear." Unless I misunderstand what you're pointing out, I see nothing contradictory about the original statement when the nutrients listed are considered as a group. Which of those ingredients is raising the natural acidity of the bark up to 6.5. Or is the bark that we are using treated in some way that the pH is raised? The bark is acidic, the Turface only mildly acidic (around 6.5), and the granite slightly basic. Because the bark pH is around 4.0 - 5.0 doesn't mean that when it's combined with other ingredients the o/a soil pH will be 4.0 - 5.0. The other soil ingredients buffer the pH of the bark. Is the top bark already composted somewhat and is that why it looks wet? . . . If I am correct, does the decomp of the top bark help provide nitrogen where the "raw" bark would not? The bark at the top IS damp, AND partially composted. I prefer this type of bark simply because it requires less N to compensate for N immobilization. Al...See MoreWater retaining potting soil ingredient question
Comments (3)Gosh, I hope she hasn't been playing with fertilizer! I've seen osmocote advertised but am not familiar with it in person. I'll have to pay a little more attention. These are soft when we find them as they are already in moist potting material. OK, I looked up osmocote on the net and I do believe you're correct. I guess I won't be buying her a bottle of osmocote for her birthday! LOL Thanks for the feedback....See MoreRooting: Water vs Soil
Comments (39)smr9479, welcome! To answer your question, as long as the cutting you make has at least two mature leaves (4 or more is usually better), it should root. To make a standard cutting (for your average hoya), you want to cut the stem right BELOW a node (the place where the leaves join to the stem, again making sure there are at least two leaves on the CUT portion of plant- see picture below). For heavier (large leaves or a big cutting) hoyas or hoyas with very small internode stem (stem tissue between two sets of leaves), you want to make a cut directly BELOW a node. You will then remove the leaves from the node. See picture. Keep in mind any long, young vines that have immature or no leaves may die back. But, after it uses the energy to root, it will grow a new vine. Hoya waymaniae, taking a standard cutting: Hoya waymaniae, taking a heavy "duty" cutting (large leaves or very tiny internode space):...See MoreSoil not retaining water
Comments (22)Sorry I missed your earlier post on soil ingredients, but here are my thoughts. I'll just talk about how your list might fit into the 5-1-1 mix because you don't have the ingredients for gritty mix. I'll apply what I understand of the principles behind Al's mixes, and I hope someone will straighten me out if I'm way off base. Basically, it's not possible to improve drainage in a water retentive soil, although in some cases you might be able to use a little bit of water retentive soil to your final mix. Sadly, your sandy soil is worse for this than peat-based potting mixes because it has absolutely no structure to start with, but fortunately there are other options for a faster draining medium. However (I use that word way too much), check out Al's posts in this thread, especially the drawings halfway down the page, for a short term solution you might try while you figure out which way to go. Read Al's instructions very carefully to make sure it works. See Al's posts and drawings about halfway down this thread 1- Perlite: good for drainage, doesn't absorb water, but retains a film of moisture on the nooks and crannies on its surface. Use coarse perlite possible and sift to remove fine qdust. 2- Vermiculite: not great. Large particles create air spaces when dry but get soggy and squishy when wet and break down much faster than perlite or bar. would. May be okay if you repot every year or so, but because you have few options for durable large particles, I'd avoid it if you can. 3- coco peat: not recommended by Al, even if it's treated to remove harmful salt, but I've seen posts by people who use it if they can't find sphagnum peat. 4- peat moss: I'm assuming you mean sphagnum peat. Generally, Al recommended20% peat in a mix of particles between 1/16" and 3/8", with most around 1/4", is goodany more than that and the mix will retain enough water to create a PWT that endangers root health. However, in your situation I could see using more because of the few usable ingredients you have access to. Try to find peat that hasn't been screened into tiny little bits. 5- sandy soil: 1/16" to 1/8" particles of inorganic material will drain as well as the grit recommended in gritty mix. Screen to remove particles smaller than 1/16" that would impede drainage and suffocate roots. 6- clay soil: no; its extremely fine particles will fill up the spaces between the coarser particles, reducing available oxygen and blocking drainage. 7-leaf compost: I doubt it. Some leaves decompose slowly because they contain nasty stuff like tannins that you don't want in the soil; others might as well be clay because they break down into fine particles very quickly. Remember, the reason composted bark works is that it's pretty non-reactive in soil and is full of slow-decomposing lignin that supports soil structure longer and doesn't release by-products as quickly as composted wood or leaves. 8- sugarcane press mud: I don't know what's in it, but mud is the same as clay--it negates all the benefits of a fast draining mix. Your workable ingredients add up to coarse sand, peat, and perlite. Coarse sand, if you can find it, holds little to no water, and perlite only holds a little, so you'll want to increase the peat and perlite in your mix. This might come out to something like 3-2-2 coarse sand-peat-perlite. Geez, Ali, you seem to inspire some long posts! Hopefully I didn't repeat myself to much. I know your rather not change out your mix, but I can't really see a way to improve your situation without it....See Moretapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
6 years agoargreen73 (North Florida/Zone 8b)
6 years agoLauren (Zone 9a)
6 years agoargreen73 (North Florida/Zone 8b)
6 years agoLauren (Zone 9a)
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6 years agoargreen73 (North Florida/Zone 8b)
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