Rounded, preferably draping cold hardy rose for a pot.
Dave5bWY
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Comments (52)Hi, A couple of questions: -Would hardy pricklypear cactus (Opuntia humifusa/compressa) be the only hardy pricklypear to endure zone 6 winters? -Would sweetshoot bamboo (Phyllostachys dulcis) be suitable for zone 6? -Comment: Pawpaw, Asimina spp. (including Asimina triloba), contains the compounds associated with increased risk of atypical Parkinson's; you'd have to it is frequently enough, I would suppose. -Comment: I believe that ginko nuts must be eaten in moderation - I remember reading some materials describing them as toxic to some extent. I wonder if making tea out of the leaves would be a good thing, however. -I know Lucky has some varieties survive his zone 6 winters, but anyone have any varieties of Pomegranates survive zone 6, 6a or 5b? - and fruit? -What are the best Amelanchier spp./Juneberries/Serviceberries w/regards to taste? I think that the only berries I absolutely loved must have been A. alnifolia - 5' thin suckered bushes with dark, sugar-sweet berries; the A. canadensis and A. canadensis x laevis I've tasted are not as good as what ever variety that happened to have been. -Will American hazelnut/filbert & American beaked hazelnut hybridize with the European species? -If I were able to obtain a true American Chestnut selected from a stand that showed great disease resistance, would the taste hold up to the Chinese and/or English varieties? -In comparison to a straight D. virginiana or D. kaki, would there be any taste improvement in the hybridization between American x Asian persimmon? -Would you think that a fully ripe Wild Mandrake/Mayapple would be at all toxic; or would it be risky if consumed in excess? -What are cold-hardy, reliable varieties of Black Mulberry (M. nigra)? [non-hybrids] -In zone 6b, my 'Brown Turkey' Fig never dies back to the ground; I do nothing to protect it. -I purchased a grafted D. kaki 'Saijo' and a friend of mine showed me his orchard containing grafted Asian persimmons - the grafts reject after several years; he explained that if you had an American x Asian hybrid as the inter-connection between the D. virginiana rootstock and D. kaki scion, the graft would last indefinitely. I hope the tree will last, contrary to this - probably won't. -Are the berries of native/American shrub-dogwoods and tree dogwoods (other then the toxic Cornus florida - Flowering Dogwood) really edible? C. sericea/stolon., C. alternifolia, etc.? -Besides Black Oak, any other good oak nuts? -I'll contribute a few I can think of here (edibles): Salmonberry, Thimbleberry, 2 varieties of Ligonberries - American/European, Bearberries, Wild Wintergreen Berries, Berberries spp., (water lily and lotus/parts, arrowhead/parts, pickerelweed/parts, Acorus - sweetflag, not iris!), various man-made blackberry x raspberry hybrids, the man-made 'jostaberry' - ribes spp., a wide array of vaccinium spp. (blueberries, deerberries, bilberries, false huckleberries), Garden Huckleberry (not a huckleberry), varieties of cranberry, Akebia, Orange trifoliate, Crabapple spp., nuts: chinquapin, species of hazelnut/walnut/varieties of hickory (including pecans), forbs: daylily species, various flowers, Monkey Puzzle Pine, Pine Nut species, syrup from Walnut & Maple species, Prinsepia, Asparagus, Globe Artichoke, Jerusalem Artichoke, various greens, various man-made stone fruit hybrids, foxgrape (including 'Concord' & 'Neptune'), purple passionflower, Mountain Ash species, Aronia spp., Western Sandcherry, Buffaloberries, native Silverberries, Sala, Yuka spp., Magnolia virginiana for tea - leaves and culinary, chokecherry, wild black cherry, pin/fire cherry, American wild plum, Chickasaw plum, Beach plum, cloudberry/bakeapple berry, smooth & staghorn sumac, teas from birches, American larch, and others - be cautious, tall & stinging nettle tea, the species of Jujube, Streptopus amplexifolius - I forgot the name - I call it watermelon berry, but it's not the above mentioned Che/Melonberry which is a good one to have. ____ When you think about it, there really are only a few fruits out there: Apple (4 types), brown or green Pear, Cherry otherwise know as Bing or Yellow Cherry, Melon, Apricot, Nectarine, Orange, Grapefruit, Grape, Kiwi, Plum, and Pineapple - if you don't believe me, just go to the supermarket or your local cooperate sponsored fruit consumption advocacy materials. Well, they do have around 5 other rare ones: Starfruit, Date, Fig, and Fruit-roll-up Fruit....See MoreWill these uncommon hardy tropical edibles cold-hardy to zone 7A?
Comments (18)Given that I'm in a climate zone where these things do well, I'm probably not the best person to give advice. But I can endorse the idea of Chilean guava in a pot. Mine was permanently outdoors of course, but it flowered and fruited fine for several years before I was able to plant it in the garden. The flowering is late enough that it won't be troubled by being indoors etc until the frosts have passed, and it doesn't require a long season to fruit. I don't know what level of frost it will tolerate - certainly some, but the places it grows best are cool and windy, so not frosty. There is also at least one feijoa variety that can be grown and fruited in a pot (the self-fertile Unique), but it is probably still too big to be moved inside, unlike the Chilean guava which is small. I don't have the space for kiwifruit or the climate for pomegranate (not hot enough in summer), so I can't help with those....See MoreCold hardiness of catts and phals?
Comments (19)Hi, I have been growing my orchids which are mostly Catt/Laelia types outdoors for the last three years in Southern California until I moved back North and had to shove everything into a greenhouse. I had success with growing everything outside and leaving it outdoors with limited to no cover. I did lose a few, so hopefully you can learn from these mistakes! What certainly does do well: 1) Laelia purpurata, Laelia crispa, Laelia jongheana, Laelia briegeri, Laelia milleri 2) Cattleya mossiae, Cattleya sanderae, Rhyncholaelia glauca, Rhyncholaelia digbyana, Sophronitis coccinea 4) Vanda caerulea and blue Vanda hybrids - this really shocked me, but they handled the cool weather very well 4) Masdevallia veitchiana, M. coccinea, M. tovarensis What I lost: 1) C. dowiana 2) C. lueddemanniana 3) Cattleya hybrids with C. dowiana influence. 4) Several Phals...these really won't take temps below 45 or so as someone else pointed out. 5) Brassavola nodosa...Brassavola cucullata had no problems though. I guess the trend here is anything that's a cool - intermediate grower did well. Many of the plants that did well fit that profile anyhow! I was living pretty close to the ocean, which I'm sure helped, but it did get down to 33 or 34 a couple of years back, and we did get hail one year. Nick's response had some really great advice. Anything with Den. speciosum in it loves the weather down there, and there are some really exceptionally beautiful Den. speciosum hybrids. I'm still waiting for my six-year-old Den speciosum seedlings to bloom, but I'm sure it's worth the wait! I highly recommend giving Laelia purpurata and some of the other Laelia species a shot too since the weather in socal seems to do them quite a bit of good. You may also want to take a look at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate's web site to see what they have to say about temperature preferences for select species. (They have a very good idea of what plants tolerate lower temps. and which will not for the Southern California Coast). Take a trip to their place if you get a chance to see what they have growing outside so that you can get an idea of what should probably do well where you are too. Aside from that, they grow their Catt and Laelia species exceptionally well, and they are always ready to give advice. Alex...See MoreCold hardy Teas?
Comments (19)This past weekend I visited the wonderful Chicago Botanic Garden and I was surprised to see both 'Maman Cochet' (bush form) and 'Old Blush' (bush and climbing forms) among their rose plantings. 'Maman Cochet' still had a bud or two on about six plants, but these plants looked very unhappy indeed--weak, stunted and with only a few lopsided twigs growing above ground. I am not sure if they are winter protected, but it certainly didn't look like it. 'Old Blush' on the other hand, while not the most robust rose I have ever seen, seemed to be doing quite nicely. Several specimens had actually formed decent-sized shrubs over the years about 2.5-3 feet in height and about the same width. The climbing form, planted against a wall, was about twice as large, so was more like a largish shrub rather than a climber. All of the 'Old Blush' specimens, both bush and climbing, still had plenty of buds and few open flowers, which were a darker pink than normal due to the cool autumn temperatures. Fragrance was China-like (kind of like sweet peas) and surprisingly strong, no doubt due to decreased petal transpiration in cool temperatures and cloudy weather. All of these plants had originally come from the Antique Rose Emporium and a few still had the original ARE tags somewhere on the bush. After seeing 'Old Blush' in person near my home, I am considering adding it to my garden in the future. I love the china roses, and 'Old Blush' has that perfect "cottage-y" look I have always loved. And I second (or third) the recommendations for 'Cecile Brunner' and 'Perle d'Or' given above. I planted both this fall and hope they survive the winter. I have grown both in the past and they are exquisite, graceful and extremely fragrant, looking very much like miniature tea roses. I once grew 'Mme Alfrd Carriere' in Michigan near Kalamazoo. It certainly survived and flowered, growing stronger and larger each season. But I was never really happy with it, since it always looked lanky and threw up many flailing ams which never got the chance to branch and become graceful before being winter killed. Fragrance was not very strong in that climate, either. It was also prone to mildew in late summer. YMMV....See MoreDave5bWY
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