You are right, that is the best solution-if you are going to mostly store the shower curtain inside the tub. I'm only going to be using this for an occasional shower at, if at all so the shower curtain will usually be hanging on the outside of the tub. Even I even keep it hanging; I may just have the contractor install the rod and skip the curtain for now. Can anyone who showers with a rain shower help me??? Does the water splash less towards the back wall???

bebotivo, Which is more important to you, style or function? We demolished and rebuilt our large shower in 2002, and the plumbing fixtures we put in were Hansgrohe (that was before Hansgrohe was bought out and became a Masco company.) We had a rainshower-style shower head. We have low-ish (not REALLY low, but fairly low) water pressure, and after seven years we decided last year that we wanted more vigorous showering. In searching for a replacement showerhead, we conducted very extensive and intensive research into our options, including purchasing, installing, and (up to the last) returning several showerheads from several different makers. The bottom line: you owe it to yourself to include the Moen Velocity 6320 in your plans. Accept no substitutes. You will see a lot of positive user reviews of the Moen Velocity on amazon.com and elsewhere; the positive reviews are true, based on our own experience. Returning to the style or function issue, the Moen Velocity is a rainshower-type head, but it is pretty heavy. Your articulating connecting arm had better be able to keep the head perky. We had to use a chrome-plated arm from Danze that does not match the brushed nickel/stainless steel plumbing fixtures that we have elsewhere in our bath. The performance of the Moen Velocity is very much worth the loss of style points from the mismatched finish in the arm. And (a bonus) Moen customer service really is customer SERVICE in these days that "service" seems to be more of a word than a concept. Encourage them.

The plan you have for using a tub / shower valve to run two shower heads won't work. Tub/shower valves assume there is no back pressure on the tub spout. You can use any type of pipe that's acceptable by code for your area. Be sure to firmly attach the shower stub(s) to a support so they resist the weight of a showerhead and the installation forces. You don't want to open the wall again to fix that later. In addition, the pressure balanced scald guard valve may be required in your area and is probably a good idea with a rain style overhead showerhead ( think about a scalding situation..) You will also need to look at the volume of water in GPM for the shower using both showerheads. Will you need to change the design of your supply lines, your drain lines or your water heater to accommodate the extra volume of water? Do the math first. I happen to think multi-head showers, like big soaking tubs, are beyond wasteful -- particularly when many areas are subject to drought. The amount of heated water that's dumped down the drain is crazy bordering on criminal.

I could just get a handheld on the sliding bar but would like a longer hose to reach across the stall to the bench ( longer than the standard 60 " ) Does the magnet on the waterpick hold well on the sliding bar ? I notice that Moen has the Engage Magnetix Hand Held Shower Head as well. Does anyone has experience with it?