Is this downy mildew? What is wrong with rose leaves
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6 years agoPatty W. zone 5a Illinois
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Comments (1)I am not sure if I posted on your question about Downy Mildew, but Mancozeb/Manzate will NOT handle this problem. I took advice from a CR and professor of horticulture and ordered the Aliette (overnight, with the extra expense). I lost 2 roses but saved the rest of the bed. This is nothing like Powdery Mildew although many posters here have confused them. This is a potential killer....See MoreHelp With Downy Mildew Please
Comments (10)This is why people should never read medical texts. Pretty soon, you convince yourself that you have every disease mentioned. Baldo should be helpful with this, but I can tell you that the marks of downy mildew are more commonly bordered by the veins in the leaf, so that you get something of a Stained Glass effect (of course, eventually the leaf DOES turn yellow and fall off). On the canes, the discolorations are most commonly a sort of purple-ish color, darkening to black, and eventually becoming necrotic. I'm not saying it's not possible -- but from our experience here, I think it is unlikely. But -- just suppose it WAS downy mildew. Would that be a death sentence for the plant? Not necessarily. When, in the early 90's (I think) we did have downy mildew here, we rushed out and bought the recommended chemical. It was to be used as a drench. Extremely powerful stuff! You used about a tablespoon-full in something like 30-G water. The stuff melted the surface of the plastic measuring spoon, and the first roses we used it on died very quickly. We then re-thought the problem, and in the end used what the avocado farmers here were doing for the closely-related fungal organism that causes avocado root rot. Fresh manure, piled around the infected plant, out to the drip line. THAT brought the situation under control. I suppose it WILL always remain in the plant, but the plants appeared to strengthen to the point where they were able to fight off the effects. And I'd far rather deal with a little horse poo, than with a chemical that melts plastic spoons. Jeri...See MoreDowny Mildew .... Please help.
Comments (15)I just wanted to take the time to thank everyone who took the time to offer there advice. It's kinda hard to go back with all of these posts and name everyone specifically so thank you again everyone. :o) Aliette and Stature are my answer. Thank you kayli-gardener,Ceterum and Michael(newjerseyrose)-for the link. I also 100% agree with you rose_marek since these are all new pottings as of Mid Winter. This would have never gotten so out of control if I only knew 2 months ago I was dealing with Downy Mildew and not blackspot. One more question though... the Mancozeb is way more economical for me... will that control a current case of downy mildew or is it just a preventive. I am aware it does kill blackspot spores but what about downy mildew? Since it is so early in the season here in the PNW I defoliated all 16 bushes yesterday. It just seemed like it would be better for the plant to use it's energy on new growth that is protected rather than the stress to the plant having to deal with diseased leaves. I swear that each time I checked them today even though they all are defoliated now... that they just looked and felt healthier to me. Crazy eh?... but I really feel it. :o) No different than when I felt they were coming down with something days before the symptoms were actually visable. Actully it seemed like it was hours... Is this actually true with what I am learning about rose gardening? Something just doesn't look/feel right on one of those numerous daily visits into the garden and hours later they have a fungus or pest problem that wasn't as clearly visable earlier. I also pruned back a few canes that seemed to have damage when I defoliated on Monday. I was only able to find a product at Lowes called Garden Dust by a company called BONIDE. The directions said that it could be mixed with water and made into a spray so I did that. The active chemical is 7% Copper Sulphate. It was the only product they had that contained copper and also the only product that actually said on the label that it could be used for downy mildew. However the label is not that clear and does not state whether it is a preventative aid or curative... or both. Any thoughts on this from anyone? Until I find out if Mancozeb will work(since it's more economical) or get a hold of Aliette or Stature this weekend I am hoping the spray I did this morning with the product by BONIDE will help. Joebar you are in my area also and said that a copper spray worked for you so I am keeping my fingers crossed this one I have is good enough until the weekend. It only cost $6.97 at Lowes which has me question it's effectiveness... who knows... maybe I just got a good deal and it's all that I will need. Any thoughts anyone? Thanks again to everyone who took the time out of their day to help me with this... it's sincerely appreciated. Jay...See Morecontainer rose with both downy mildew and Botrytis blight.
Comments (3)I've been looking for decades, and the only rose downy mildew I've seen in NC was on container roses crowded together in a display and sprinkled frequently during April, and once in a garden at 3000' altitude around June 1. I think it gets too warm in summer here for DM to be a chronic problem. Once I brought an infected plant home just to prove I warn't skeert of it. I picked off all the symptomatic leaves at the store, sprayed it with copper, and planted it. It was fine....See MorePatty W. zone 5a Illinois
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