Is This A Virus Problem? Or A Common Issue? Anyone Know?
Hey all.
This is my new 'SpiderMan' adenium, it and my 'Velvet Constellation' are finally growing, my 'Blue Dragon' is JUST starting to show growth tiny buds showing. On one of two stems that it came with. But as you see in the pictures, the leaves are 'Wavy', for lack of a better description. The leaves ARE a deep green, my camera makes them look light green or yellowish. ** SORRY... I JUST looked at it, and the leaves are striped like a zebra almost, it is kind of pretty!*** Is this a virus?
Anyway...I could swear I read on here someplace, that IF leaves on an adenium look 'Wavy' or have a color problem like this, it means it has a virus, or some other bad disease. Is this true? Or does anyone have other adeniums with 'Wavy' leaves or with the light stripping on it, like this in their collection? I have a huge double red, that I got at Lowes like 2-3 years, I potted it up 5 weeks ago...and it now is putting out a tons of new growth and lots of huge buds, and it has a FEW Wavy/Bent leaves on the new growth. But it is very healthy and growing great! Same conditions/care.
Anyway.....I contacted the seller, on EBay, that I bought this from, and frankly, while I was 'talked to' politely, at first I was told that they have NEVER seen 'Wavy' leaves like this before on ANY of their adeniums, I even missed the light green stripping, but they saw it in the pics, i guess. And I was told to keep an eye on it, and IF the leaves turn yellow or the flowers drop or are deformed, let them know.
THEN the next email, the next day, I got was kind of 'snotty', like a corporate line.....'we sell tens of thousands of adeniums, they are all soaked in an anti-fungicide for 3 hrs, before shipping, and they are sent with no leaves/buds, have passed all Oregon nursery tests etc.....' , like I was accusing them of selling me a diseased plant. And if I was 'the one lucky person out of thousands' to get a plant with a virus in it, out of the tens of thousands that they have sold, that I should, dig it up, and they will email me a prepaid shipping label, and ship it back to them for a refund. I decide what to do, but if I keep it, it is MY plant. And they basically don't want to hear me complain later! So I have to decide NOW!
So now I'm ticked. They didn't offer to send me a replacement, IF there is a problem, I told them I WANT this variety, and it is new growth,its first growth, it is growing, the ones right next to it are growing, finally, but they kind of blamed me this issue. They said it must be my environment, or it is missing micro-nutrients, I feed them already with Miracle-Gro 20-20-20 fert.
So...is this a disease, or is it just new leaves, is it just a fluke, maybe I have some kind of new 'mutant strain', and I'll have the first one in the world of some new variety?!
Do adeniums have ANY 'variegated' leaves? Since I now see this light green striping on the leaves as well. I think it is pretty.
To me it just looked kind of odd,...now I am concerned, and have a 'time limit'
on getting a refund, that I dont want, I want the plant, or take the risk that it has a virus or something else wrong, and it is mine to deal with, period. So...whats the consensus? This is outside in full sun all day. Best pics. I could take. You can kind of see the 'light green stripes' in the first picture. They are a bit bigger and a bit smoother, 2 days later...today.
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6 years agoOk. NOW i am being told that these adenium were in dormancy for months. So they are 'feeding on' their stored food in the caudex. I asked about the Micro-Nutrients that they said it was missing. Then they told me about this dormancy. So the Fert. i am using on them is not being used by the plant yet. So...when will they? Anyone know? I am waiting for a reply from the grower.
I have been sent a prepaid return slip, to send it back to them, and i get a refund. No replacement. Big deal. IF it is feeding on its own internal food, how long will it take for my fertilizer to take effect? I thought they were growing and stripped of leaves, and then shipped. So...this could be a micro-nutrient problem from its past,before its dormancy. So it could be fine, in a month, 2 months, 3 months? So do i send it back? Do i keep it, or what?
I still dont know if i am blackballed from buying from them now, i am waiting on that to. but there is no one that sells adeniums on EBay, that has any assortment.....there is one that has like 7 varieties. Big deal! They said I should buy from another seller, and that IS the other seller. The rest are in Thailand...I'm not paying THOSE prices!
Well the pictures below are of my 'Lil' Mermaid', that I potted up into a big 2-3 gallon Gro-Pot, and this is the new growth and one of its blooms. Notice some of the new leaves are bent/curly. It has 'weird leaves', but it is only on some of the new ones, the rest are fine. BUT it is in full bud/bloom, putting out lots of new growth...and it doesnt have this Cucumber Virus. It isnt living on its stored food. I assume it was in dormancy this past 'winter, here in south Fla. I potted it up and it is taking off!
So...what do i do with my 'Spider Man' plant? Send it back?. Spin the wheel and keep it, and see if the leaves grow straight and dark green in a few months, after it starts to fed on my fert.? Take their refund and get no replacement? I am lost! I have it far away from all my other adeniums now...I didnt know it was dormant for months. And if it is 'feeding on' what is stored in the caudex, will it take months to be done with the caudex, or weeks? They wont wait months for me to decide, i assume. Opinions? It looks the same,its only been 1 day since i posted the last pics. I'm lost.
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6 years agoHere's a photo of one of mine that I recently had to repot as the soil was full of yellow fungus after we went through a cyclone and had days and days of rain. The photo was taken just before I repotted it. Now that I have repotted in fresh soil the new growth is a nice solid colour again.
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