That is definitely Paper-Mulberry (Broussonetia papyrifera). This is not a plant to be trifled with. The reason that you see these growing in a row down a fence, or in thicket-like clumps, or as I know them well - as inextinguishable stands along railway corridors where they withstand whatever chemical assault the railroad can fire at them - is that this species is a suckering/colonizing plant, regenerating from any root system it has. It is quite resistant to chemical control, and doesn't seemed fazed by being cut down or mown off. I know this plant from my early youth, where there was a plant on the property my parents bought and moved us to in 1967. Despite being cut to the ground repeatedly, mown off, sprayed with herbicides, incredibly cold winters to -25F, ridiculously dry/droughty summers with shallow to bedrock soils...this plant persists at that same location lo these 45 years later, and with suckering shoots occurring a hundred feet away! This is a dioecious species to boot, meaning that only plants with female flowers will produce fruit, and male plants won't produce fruit/seed but can continue to vegetatively reproduce via root suckering and colonizing behavior. I would do everything I could to eliminate this plant anywhere within the sphere of where I would want to garden. Do not believe that this is an innocent or innocuous neighbor.

Hi all, I'm Sue, from rural Scott County Indiana, about 40 miles north of the river. I just got an invite from Marcia, and am looking forward to the details, and hope to get to come, but cannot commit this early. Joyeman, I have Ladies Mantle, and am needing to move it, so I'll pot one up for you...in case it works out for me to come. I'm going to be starting lots of Tomatoes. Is anyone interested in any tomato plants...if I get them started and then do get to come? Any special requests? I have all colors, shapes and sizes. Sue

King Snake. Lampropeltis triangulum, commonly known as a milk snake or milksnake, French: Couleuvre tachet�e; is a species of king snake. There are 24 subspecies of milk snakes. They are not dangerous to humans. Some milk snakes have a striking resemblance to coral snakes and this mimicry (known as Batesian mimicry) likely scares away potential predators. While both milk snakes and coral snakes possess transverse bands of red, black and yellow, a common mnemonic can be used to properly distinguish between the deadly coral snake and the harmless milk snake: "Red on yellow will kill a fellow, but red on black is a friend of Jack." "Red on yellow, deadly fellow; Red on black, venom lack." "Red and yellow will kill you fellow; Red and black is friend Jack." "Red on yellow, kill a fellow. Red on black, you're alright Jack." "Red next to black is a friend of Jack; red next to yellow will kill a fellow." "Red to yellow, kill a fellow. Red to black, venom lack." "If red touches black, you're okay Jack; if red touches yellow, you're a dead fellow." "Red next to black, you can pat him on the back; red next to yellow, he can kill a fellow." "Red next to black, venom I lack; red next to yellow, run away fellow." "Red and black, friend of Jack; red and yellow kill a fellow." "Red touches yellow, Not a nice fellow; if red touches black, good friend of Jack." "Red touch yellow, kill a fellow; red touch black, you're okay Jack." "Red touch black, good for Jack; red touch yellow, kill a fellow." "Yellow and red, you are dead; black and white you're alright." However, the Eastern milk snake (L. t. triangulum) does not resemble a coral snake; instead it tends to have similar markings to that of several other snakes, particularly the fox snake, scarlet snake and most importantly, the Massassauga rattlesnake. Milk, fox, and scarlet snakes are killed because of a resemblance to the venomous rattlesnake. Juvenile milk snakes, which are more reddish than adults, are often killed because they are mistaken for copperheads. There is enough distinction among the five to make the Eastern milk snake fairly easy to identify. Eastern milk snakes also have a light colored v-shaped or y-shaped patch on their neck. Milk snake activity is mostly nocturnal. They are primarily terrestrial and attempt to blend in with ground litter. Juvenile rat snakes are strongly patterned with brown blotches on a gray background (like miniature fox snakes). Darkening occurs rapidly as they grow. Adults are glossy black above with white lips, chin, and throat. When startled, rat snakes may freeze and wrinkle themselves into a series of kinks. If they feel further threatened, they may flee quickly or vibrate their tails in dead leaves (a form of mimicry, which makes them sound like rattlesnakes). They are also capable of producing a foul-smelling musk, which they will release onto predators if picked up. They spread the musk with their tails in hopes of deterring the threat. When cornered or provoked, Black Snakes are known to stand their ground and can become aggressive. In some instances involving larger specimens, they will often launch a counter-offensive and attempt to chase the antagonizer away. Unlike other Elaphe obsoleta whose conspicuous juvenile pattern fades into adulthood, gray rat snakes do not undergo drastic ontogenetic changes in color, or markings. These snakes retain the juvenile pattern of dark elongate dorsal blotches separated by four, or more, pale gray body scales, a light gray crown with dark striping that forms an anteriorly facing spearpoint, and a solid band which covers the eyes and extends rearward to the posterior upper labial scales. The venter is usually off-white or pale gray with darker irregular blotches, and a double row of black spots behind the divided anal plate of the vent. The dorsal scale rows around midbody are usually weakly keeled. Because the gray rat snake shares its range with other members of its species, intergrades of black/gray and yellow/gray rat snakes are not uncommon. Check the snake's scales. Rat snakes have weakly keeled scales with ridges. King snakes have smooth scales. Then there are the pupils ... Despite the snakes common name of the snake, non venomous snakes have round pupils. Poisonous snakes often have a triangular head tapering towards the mouth, with the nonpoisonous species often possessing smoothly curved, U-shaped heads. However, some nonvenomous snakes may narrow their heads to warn off predators, while some may have a naturally pointed head. A striking example of the latter is the wine snake, which has a very pronounced 'tip' to its head. In most cases, though, it is wise not to approach a snake if it has a tapering head. -Soleil H. Here is a link that might be useful: Identifying your snake.

pjb, Sometimes you cannot avoid them though. I know someone who was turning on his faucet and got bit. Someone I used to work with was doing laundry inside her home and reached down to get some clothes and got bit, they figure it came through the dog door. I went to turn the lights off in my garage one evening and turned the corner in my hallway and there was one (I didn't get bit). Several species of rattlesnake will give you the chance to retreat but some like the Mojave green are just plain nasty. In the 20 years we've lived here I have dispatched more rattlers than I care to think about. My 4yr old g-son was less than 1/2 ft from one. Luckily it was injesting and couldn't strike. DH was weeding one winter and touched the back of one- thank God it was lethargic from the cold. I went to get a sweater one night (7/4) from DH's truck- stepped down and heard a rattle. I had to wait in the dark until it rattled again and then I jumped the other way. That was a 3' diamondback- it was less than a foot away. BTW, that 2 year old I posted about last month. The child is Dr. Sean Bush's little boy. Dr Bush who lives about 1/2 mile from us is the ponytail venom doctor from the TV channel Animal Planet's "Venom ER" show. Jude saw the snake in their backyard and tried to pick it up. Dr Bush keeps snakes, spiders, scorpians etc in his garage (well contained) and Jude thinking this was one of his daddy's snakes that got loose wanted to help. If you ever got bit Dr Bush is the man you want to take care of you. In fact he is on call if President Bush (no relation) ever gets bit at his ranch in Crawford.