Surprise Pipevine Swallowtail Eggs and Hatchlings!
MissSherry
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Comments (26)"Funny Sherry I was wondering the same thing about inbreeding, never have seen any mention of it when reading about captive breeding." When I showed up here almost 7 years ago, I took some people to task about the way they were releasing large numbers of inbred giant silk moths. That went over like a lead weight so I have pretty much kept my mouth shut since then. Ladobe criticized one of our members about it last year but no one followed up on it. The quote was "Besides weakening the gene pool, forced inbreeding produces low egg viability, high malformation risk and so therefore high mortality. Not a good practice." One consequence of moth inbreeding helped cause a shift in USDA policy last month. The USDA no longer regulates interstate shipments of Bombyx mori. Those moths are so inbred they can no longer survive in the wild. I raise relatively large numbers (up to 400 of one type) of Saturniidae every year. I go to great lengths to try to make sure the wild males that my girls mate with are not the brothers or the male first cousins that I released. I also try to make sure my released males and females do not mate with each other. I do this by doing releases at least 10 miles (usually more) from my house and releasing the females and males at least 10 miles (usually more) away from each other. I used to mark my males to make sure they were not finding their way home but quit being that paranoid after years of never getting one back. I release at least 10 miles away because 7 miles seems to be the generally accepted maximum distance that a male Saturniidae can follow a female's pheromones. That said, I have seen a claim that male giant silk moths can follow female pheromones for "nearly 30" miles. YMMV I preface my next statement by saying I have no clue how this guy operates. There is a guy in Ohio that raises 3k-4k cecropias each year. I read that he has been raising them since '86. Something wiped out his cats in 2008 and he had to start over in 2009. I'm real curious if inbreeding affected his setup and I'd like to know what happens to all the moths he doesn't sell (IOW, do they get let go). As for inbreeding butterflies and affecting the gene pool, there is a lot of info/controversy on the net about it because of people raising butterflies for mass release at weddings. One related article I have posted before is linked at the end of this post. Last thought: I know of one inbred butterfly that has been studied a lot: monarchs on Hawaii. I believe around 20% of them are white now. My guess is they do alright because the favorable weather conditions don't put a lot of stress on them. They would probably have trouble with migrating to Mexico and surviving the winters there. Anyway, there is a lot of research out there about them. KC Here is a link that might be useful: All Aflutter...See MorePipevine Swallowtail & Red-Spotted Purple
Comments (10)Sandy. This picture was taken with an Olympus C700UZ 2.1 digital. I've had it for 8 or 9 years so get better pics from it than the Caonnon S3 IS 6.0 digital I bought 2-3 years ago to replace it (I don't like the Cannon). Like my first digital back in the mid 90's, both are just for the ease of putting the pics on-line though. If I wanted to take serious pictures of any kind I'd drag out my mid 80's Minolta 7000i SLR with every lense/accessory ever made for it (including the best 100mm Marco lens money could buy). I'm a 35mm type of guy since the mid 60's, and SLR's since the earliest 70's. I don't like the digitals. But they are easier than taking prints, waiting for them to be developed and having to scan the prints to post them on-line. Unfortunately the ex has all my real pictures taken from 1967-2002... and so almost all of my lep and travel pictures. I'd have to take new pics from my SC to share pictures of leps now. . Sherry, There are quite a few species of Cosmosoma in CR too. This one is Cyanopepla scintillans though....See MoreBlack Swallowtail Hatchlings!
Comments (33)We had a terrible storm this early A.M. Lot's of wind and rain. I can only spot 7 babies and can only hope the others are just under leaves. They had eaten the top out of one stalk and they were all bunched up at the top. The other stalks had gotten blown over so we propped them up with some poles agaist the one still standing. After a while, they began to move onto the other stalks. If they run out of dill, will they crawl over to the parsley plants? They're right next to each other but the babies would have to crawl onto the ground to get to the parsley. Also, I came across this picnic item while looking for the old curtain sheers. It springs open like an umbrella and is used to sit over food on a picnic table to protect from flying insects. If I use some tent pegs or made some wire hooks out of wire hangers to hold the base to the ground, this might make a good outside protection over the host plants. Of course, once you used it for this purpose, it would no longer be useful for human food protection. :-) I got this one from Camping World and I believe they're about $5 and less when on sale. Does this look like something that might work to help protect them while on the outside host plants? Mary unopened: From __Garden Flowers - plants opened: From __Garden Flowers - plants...See MoreItty bitty PipevineSwallowtails
Comments (17)Kathy, My plants are in partial sun. They get shade most of the heat of the day. If you plant them now, be sure to mulch them heavily and keep the soil moist, but not saturated, until they start showing new growth. After they are established, they prefer drier soil. If you have PVS around, you may want to put tulle or some other fine netting over your plants to keep the BFs from laying eggs on them this year. They can devour a plant in a very short time and your plants need time to get established. There are quite a few varieties of Aristolochia available. And, I can think of several that might be called Dutchman's Pipevine. Did the seller tell you it was a host plant for Pipevine Swallowtails? If so, it could be tomentosa or macrophylla. It's good to know exactly which variety you have. You can google "Aristolochia" and view pictures of the different plants and match the descriptions to your plants. Congrats on your find, and best wishes for attracting the PVSs. Sandy...See Moreweed30 St. Louis
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