One thing to point out is that if you spray the weeds with a broadleaf weedkiller (such as Weed B Gone), you'll have to wait for some time before planting (I think it's a couple of weeks, but it's on the label). If you use Roundup, it'll kill everything, including your existing grass, but you'll be able to plant in a few days (again, check the label to find out how long, especially since there are new versions of roundup that are long lasting). Do you know when your average first frost is? You may be pushing things seeding this late. If I remember correctly, there are pockets of SE PA that have pretty late first frosts, but conditions can vary widely over a fairly small area. You don't want to seed with less than 6 weeks before you expect a frost. You may be too late to seed already, or you may be ok as long as you don't treat the weeds.

Yeah, I was just reading online how to fill in all the holes that were inbetween fescue (since I couldn't seed more fescue in hot weather). I probably won't be adding anymore bermuda, just stick with the tall fescue. Which is wierd, if it's a cold season grass, then how does it grow so good in this zone 9 110 heat? Shouldn't it be the opposite? I noticed it goes somewhat dormant, and doesn't grow hardly at all for about a month when it's over 100...but it stays nice and green! I mow at about 2.5" and the bermuda doesn't seem to mind. The bermuda grows good too, but I like the way fescue looks better...and it's about half the price. I'll probably stick with fescue since it'll be green in winter too. So what schedule should I use if I'm going to stick with my fescue mix? Should I aerate, seed, or fertilize first?

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"It IS evidence, but it's not proof." Pablo: Suspicion is not evidence. That is an absolute statement. rangier: I have seen evidence in my garden, and in others' that compost teas give disease resistance. I won't call it proof, but it makes me strongly suspect that it does. Note I didn't say only ACT, I said "compost teas." "I've not seen studies that say either way." Pablo: I have. rangier: OK. Then act accordingly. "You seem to be saying that nothing is true until it is proven to your high standard" Pablo: Nothing is proven until it is proven. There is a way to do that. rangier: That's not what I said, is it Pablo? Re-read it. Notice the word "true?" I am saying that something that is proven to be true, was true before it was proven, i.e. if spraying compost tea (any kind) on foliage helps with disease or pests, then it does so now, whether proven or not. Since I'm spraying it anyway, it *may* be a *possible* additional benefit. "It is reasonable to suspect that some of the tens of thousands of strains in a good ACT or maybe in non-ACT will do the same." Pablo:Common sense does not prove it either. People used to believe that stress CAUSED ulcers. They were wrong. Common sense. Theory guides and experiment decides- the experiments have shown no benefit over other methods. rangier: You continue to argue with things I didn't say. Did I say it proved it? I suspect it from my experience and others'. Pablo: There are common sense reasons that those bacteria will not survive being sprayed/dried etc. and having a rapid change of environment. I won't say that's evidence they don't work. rangier: I agree that it is not evidence either way. Dead or alive, they may trigger an immune response. Moisture is present on foliage from transpiration. Notice I didn't use the words "prove," or "proof." Pablo:Fact is- there's just no evidence that it does any more. That's not some extremely high standard to ask that there be some evidence that it does more before it's taken as the truth. It's not even a theory yet- it is only hypothesis. I'm probably being generous saying even that because of the studies that show no benefit over non ACT. rangier: I didn't say that it(ACT) does more(than non), did I Pablo. Pablo:Don't let your dogma get in front of your karma on this. rangier: Huh? You too. Pablo:I really don't know why people get so defensive when I say this. It's not proven to be more effective. That's a fact. Even when people agree with me they seem to get defensive about it here. rangier: I'm not being defensive, Pablo. I am puzzled at why you keep presenting arguments countering things I didn't say. rangier