My Eugene de Beauharnais is Climbing! What is going on?
jacqueline9CA
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Comments (11)Musaboru, Viru Viraraghavan introduced two small-growing Teas, 'Aussie Sixer' and 'Dixie Beauty', that are ideal subjects for container culture. Both are available from Roses Unlimited. Another Tea that I prefer to grow as a container rose is 'Devoniensis' (the bush form). It's not a rapid grower and can be maintained in a relatively small container. The very compact Bourbon 'Queen of Bedders' is especially good as a container rose. If I had to select a favorite variety for growing in a container, it would be difficult for me to choose between this one and 'Devoniensis'. The problem with QoB, though, is availability. Vintage was the only U.S. source, and I don't think it was ever available there except as a custom order. BTW, it would be helpful to know what you mean by SMALL pots. My initial reaction to some of the posts above was that several of the varieties suggested are not really suitable for small pots. But what I think of as a "small" pot for roses is probably quite different from what others might have in mind....See MoreEugene de Beauharnais or William Shakespeare 2000?
Comments (30)Wow -- I just want to first of all thank everyone for all the replies! Bustopher, I absolutely love the purple rose in the picture! I have heard all that I need to forget about EdB. I had originally become interested after reading about it on Paul Barden's page, because he rates it as a "5" for fragrance and has so much good to say about it. However, there are so many other roses of great perfume that I have dismissed EdB. Paul, thanks for the advice. I have read several posts on GW about HR's LVdB not being the right plant. I completely agree to this because it repeats -- (and apparently it does so consistently, according to their head grower). However, I bought a LVdB for David Austin Roses, figuring that since they are a reputable grower originating in Europe, that they must have a perfect mother plant. In HR's catalog, they list their LVdB as having a strong perfume of "Sweetpea and Lilac", so this coupled with the fact that it repeats caused me to want the rose. I figured I wanted three versions-- the DAR one, the HR one, and one from Rogue Valley Roses. (I love RVR!) Thank you for confirming the fact that Duchesse de Rohan repeats! This has completely "enabled" me! I have been wanting that rose for a long time, so today after speaking with Chris -(Heirloom's head grower), and hearing from you, I now know that I will definitely be adding that one to my collection soon. Another thing I like about DdR is that according to Paul Barden and Chris, it has a centifolia fragrance, which seems rare... especially in a repeater! Thanks again and I would love to hear if anyone has anything more to say!...See MoreEugene de Beauharnais
Comments (28)Here's a pic of our Eugene. It is a wimp for us too but as it is in a pot with other plants it really isn't so noticible. We are very dry here so we don't have any problems with growing it and I find it to be quite tough. We've lost quite a few roses in our very hot dry summers but Eugene just goes leafless for a few months and come fall resumes flowering first and then leafs out. Kind of backwards but I love this rose. The bush is very small but the flowers are beautiful and the fragrance is so wonderful I find myself stooping to take a wiff several times a day when he's in bloom. No idea of how hardy he is as we're not that cold here but if he's in a pot it would be easy enough to pull him into a garage or some other protected place. Maria...See MoreCould this rose be Eugene de Beauharnais?
Comments (15)Jackie, now that I see the plant, I am even more willing to accept this as EdB. I am making an interesting experiment here, with the help of Kim Rupert. We removed EdB from our garden long ago, because when we quit spraying, it began to rust. Inexorably. It was the only rose I have ever seen whose leaves rusted even as they began to unfold. Kim's theory was that if EdB was budded onto real powerhouse rootstock, it might not rust. So, he budded it on Fortuniana, which is a happy monster here. The very first leaves rusted. I removed them, and subsequent leaves have not rusted -- so I am cautiously optimistic. And I theorize that if your plant is really an old one, and possibly budded to start with, it might have the rust-resistant that we hope Fort is imparting to mine. An interesting side-story. When we grew EdB before -- and sprayed regularly -- we also exhibited regularly. The best spray of EdB I ever saw was DQ'd at an ARS rose show, because the judges asked someone about it, and that person said that she didn't know the rose, but it didn't "look like a China" to her. To say that I was ticked off is putting it mildly....See MoreMelissa Northern Italy zone 8
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