Does this Karndean Van Gogh LVP texture layer look smudgy to you?
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Do your Karndean floors look like this?
Comments (325)@Cynthia Cunningham We have two LVPs in our house that we are trying to replace due to unfortunate reasons (defect in the first LVP and then misleading sales in the second, both companies ended up refunding us but it was a huge pain on both counts.) The finish matters. The one we have with a matte finish (Coretec Berlin PIne) tears up our socks and pants at a ridiculous rate (we are on the floors a lot with our toddler). We also have experienced the haze/footprint issue with that one that people complain about. The other LVP (Cali Bamboo North Shore Oak) does not have a matte finish, you can see and feel the difference comparatively, and it cleans great and has not torn apart our clothes. We hate going upstairs because that is where the clothes-shredding Coretec floor is and we have to try not to touch it with our clothes. Just by getting down on our knees and getting back up once ruins our pants because it leaves whitish patches (that turn to holes quickly with repeated exposure to the floor). I've had to apologize to friends whose kids ruined their pants in one afternoon of playing on our floors. Both companies say they use the same top coat (UV acrylic) and the one that has the most embossed texture (Cali) is the one that isn't shredding our clothes, so it is not a difference in wear layer composition or in embossing/not embossing. it really does seem to be a difference between matte and non-matte finishes. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find any new LVP samples so far that don't have the matte finish that seems to have overtaken the industry in the last year. If it weren't for the fact that we were promised 10 patterns from Cali Bamboo and there were only 4 when we installed (and the repeats look glaringly, stupidly obvious) then we would go with Cali Bamboo just because it isn't shredding our clothes. Now, I could see how it wouldn't matter if you don't wear socks and don't get on the floors much. Even the clothes shredding floor is comfortable to walk on barefoot. It took us several months to figure out that was what was tearing up our clothes (but once we did figure it out, it was super obvious it was happening just on the Coretec matte floor). My point really is to say, yes, there is definitely some (if not most) LVP that certainly shreds clothes but there apparently is at least one out there that doesn't (Cali Bamboo). Still searching for another non-matte finish LVP and will let you know if we find one!...See MoreFlooring Questions: Laminate? Luxury Vinyl like Karndean?
Comments (45)Magg5412 that's lovely! wow. It's been 3 years already since I posted my question and finally went with wood laminate that was less expensive than the luxury vinyl I wanted. We went with Pioneer laminate from Flooring Liquidators (sweetwater) my husband installed himself starting the day we got keys. The 18" tile floor the builder put in kitchen & baths looked so nice that my DH just wouldn't agree to ripping it up for my 'vision' of uninterrupted wood floors. (I just paid a service to steam clean all my ceramic tile where grout got too dirty for me to get it really clean--well worth it!) im in the middle of repainting inside of my house so no good pix. but the 3 years of wear on the laminate only shows where water got spilled near a plant and no one saw. Sweep. Mop. Done....See MoreKarndean flooring, yay or nay?
Comments (5)Like all things vinyl, it is ALL about the HOUSE. Yep. The HOUSE dictates the type of flooring and how well it will "work". The indoor environment belongs to the house, the house belongs to the homeowner. Thereby the homeowner "owns" the living conditions that may or may not ruin a floor. Ok...so that being said, Karndean vinyl floors have many forms of installation. Floating, glue down and perimeter glue. With ALL things "flooring" they TYPE of installation is dictated by the home. The quality of the INSTALLER is the next point of contention. The home's subfloors will need to be prepared within an INCH of their lives. That means $$$ on subfloor preparation. That means you need an installer who is METICULOUS in his/her preparation. Someone who offers $0.50/sf for subfloor prep is going to ruin your project before it began. Once the subfloor has been prepared (some can be as costly as $3-$4/sf depending on your home/subfloor), the Karndean planks can be installed. If you are doing a GLUE DOWN, the correct glue MUST be used. The correct TROWEL must be used. The correct SPREAD RATE must be used (how much glue per 100 sf, etc) and then the planks must be laid using the correct "timing" (glue cannot be too wet nor too dry). And the home's interior living conditions must be maintained throughout the ENTIRETY of the floor's life (15-20 years). Large plate glass windows from the 80's are going to have issues letting in too much sun/UV/heat. And those are "vinyl killers". Improperly installed sliding glass doors or exterior doors that are bit "leaky" will also cause issues for vinyl flooring that has been glued down. Wow. Soooo many places where things "can go wrong". I've been part of the "Do your Karndean floors look like this?" discussion (both as a professional and as a private poster). I would guess the VAST majority of the thread (75%) has to do with IMPROPER installation (poor prep, improper use of materials, poorly trained installers, etc). Another 15% would have to do with problems with the HOUSE (interior living conditions not up to snuff for vinyl....like too hot in front of windows, poorly built crawlspace, old concrete slab foundation, etc). A very very very small percentage of the issues were from the flooring itself. If you estimate 1% - 5% of the problems you read were from the VINYL itself, you would probably be guessing a bit too high. It can happen. It is not outside the realm of possibility that you can get a bad batch. I'm not arguing that at all. I'm simply stating that as much as 99% of the complaints about flooring have to do with something other than the product itself. I hope you find the floor you want. Be aware that a "matte" finish floor is TOUGH to live with. They look great in photos but are HELL to deal with as a home owner. A satin finish is MUCH easier and will still "work" as a low-gloss floor....See MoreKarndean korlok flooring - texas white ash?
Comments (52)There are installed photos of warm brushed oak KarnDean on Instagram & Facebook just hashtag search . Brushed means brushed blended visually not texturally hope this makes sense. Texture is same across all the Korlock KarnDean. The planks are non repeating like all KarnDean LVP. The warm brushed oak planks are more uniform (not much wood knot look) when compared to ‘warm ash’ or Texas white ash which are both more patchy when installed , color like real wood variable plank to plank which can be seen on installs on IG & FB. Canadian Urban Oak has the wood knot look and grain appearance as well as non repeating planks while not being patchy. Again several installed images are on IG & FB. Hth good luck...See Moreishop19
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