Teardown, rebuild by home owner, funding catch 22
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Comments (23)Don't buy it - so that I can get my hands on it! Seriously, if it's something you love there's ways to make almost anything work but you do need to keep your head on your shoulders and know when or if to walk away. I would suggest interviewing by phone a bunch of home inspectors and get one whose passion and speciality is old houses and is someone you can trust and talk to easily and answers your questions to your satisfaction. You'll know him/or her when you find him/her. That's the person who will talk to you at length on the phone because they're excited and passionate. If everyone you ask keeps referring you to the same guy, that's another clue that they're good. Make offer contingent on the inspection, or if you want to spend the money you can even have it inspected prior to making an offer - a knowledgeable and skilled inspector should be able to give you good ball park #s you can use to either write an offer or come up with a budget. I would not mess around with the contractors just yet...unless they know and love old houses and can give you the BIG PICTURE and know all the houses systems incl plumbing, heat, electrical, structural, etc. The problem with calling in contractors at this point is that a lot of them might push their way of doing things and not tell you about other options, or even know about them - maybe theyd push new windows for example whereas a good inspector would give you the whole range of options including just repairing the old ones. At this point I would want just a good overview and ball park nuymbers and not detailed quotes for every little job. Hope that helps! Have fun!...See Morewould you buy this house?
Comments (22)You might want to post on the 'Plumbing' forum about what happens when a vacant house in a northern climate isn't winterized. One burst pipe may only be a part of the story. (Damage to toilets, water heaters, boilers, walls, even electrical.) What's the HVAC in this house? Have you talked to any neighbors? This would be a good weekend to walk around asking questions. The worst that can happen is that they won't want to talk to you. You may get an earfull! I can't understand why you'd offer $147.5K when the photo page shows a list of $130K. Was this a 1950's development -- one builder? Does the city's bulding and development department have plans on the original, and plans/permits on the addition? I'd pass on this unless you can buy for little more than land value and would be OK doing a total gut of the house or teardown. How long do you plan to stay in whatever house you buy?...See MoreArticle link: "How listing buzz words can affect a home’s sale price"
Comments (34)Here's why I personally feel buzz words don't work. It's a little like custom features. Everyone's idea of what "luxurious", to use one example, can vary wildly. Even words like "large" can often be disputed as what may be a large backyard in your own neighborhood, may be a postage stamp in someone else's. We've sold FSBO three times and each time when we let the buyer do most of the talking, we discovered interesting information about their home search. And with every home we've had buyers who were downsizing. Had we wasted time in our ads or trying to convince them that our "fabulous deck area" will sell our home, we would have found out that maybe they don't want the maintenance of a deck. Or that the deck they currently home is massive compared to ours. For the majority of people, a home will be the single most expensive thing they ever purchase. So it stands to reason that most of us don't want to over pay. Superfluous adjectives create high expectations. And whenever those expectations aren't met, the buyer sees that as an opportunity to create objections in their own mind in order to offer less. The idea of the ad is just to get buyers in your home. Period. When the buyers show up, you want them to leave thinking that the property has SO much more going on than even the ad promised. That creates value in the mind of the buyer and it pushes them to make a decision because they know their competition (other buyers) will probably be feeling the same way....See MoreDo we have to knock down and rebuild? What's more cost efficient?
Comments (24)It sounds like you are not fully informed about some of the issues with construction in your area. Exterior - definitely a big one. The arched windows, the round column, the frilly embellishments, the classic rough stucco - we're not big fans of. Lyfia, agree these could be updated. You might check with your local zoning folks first. The neighborhood I moved from last year specifically disallowed the type of architecture you want to change to. The neighborhood was known as a "bungalow" area. You could build anything you wanted to behind an early 20th century bungalow facade that met certain criteria. They sell for $200 to $500 per square ft, so they are out of reach to many people. Still people buy them as blower uppers. People do not come to that neighborhood expecting to find an eclectic array of houses. Thus the housing value for the neighborhood would be expected to decline if you started building odd looking homes. If your neighborhood does not have any architectural design restrictions, others in the neighborhood would forever point at your modern house as, "that house," and not in a friendly way. foundation - cheaper pier and beam type - floors creaking, some sagging. We wish this was a sturdier more modern basement type foundation. Pier and beam can be cheap, but some of the most expensive homes in the world are built on pier and beam. Pier and beam might be the only possible foundation depending on earthquake prevalence. If your floors creak and sag, that's a remodeling issue, not a rebuilding issue. What is modern about basements? I could probably count on two hands the number of basement houses in California. Something about earthquakes makes them impractical. truss roof - low 8 feet ceilings throughout the house. We cry a little every time we experience nice high ceilings. Truss roofs can be built above any room height. I think the room height is more of a problem for you than the structural design. Square footage - small for the family. We'd love a bigger 2n'd story - not just a room on top of the garage. Small rooms and bathrooms. 4 bedrooms, 3 baths in 1590 sq feet. We could do with a better floor plan. Unbelievable!!! I thought 3-2 in 1800 square feet was cramped. Pitched roof - we've grown up in flat roofed houses with roofs that we could walk out on to. We'd love to have that again - and a partial terrace would be phenomenal. Just curious what part of the world you grew up in? You're not originally from California, are you? Dated interiors - floors, floor boards, moldings, tile floors - this I feel would be an easy change Sure. This is last one is all remodeling, but you have other issues. If you are absolutely in love with this location, I would suggest looking for a more run down house in the neighborhood, buy that, and redo. You have a serious multiplier effect going on. If you buy a 1500 square foot house at $300 psf, and remodel/rebuild it to 3000, square feet, you likely still have something in the range of $300 psf in value. That's what is going on in the bungalow neighborhood I mentioned above. Most of the psf cost goes into kitchens and baths, so adding larger bedrooms and family rooms is relatively low cost....See Morejust_janni
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