I have a long fence and a neighbor that I don't care too much about

7 years ago

I was thinking of planting a rambler on the back fence, there is also room for this rose to scramble up into a 100ft magnolia tree.

I'm thinking Treasure Trove, but I'm really on the cusp of zone 7/6b. Thoughts? Will I go to rose damnation for planting such a thorny monster on a property line?

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fig_insanity Z7b E TN

7 years ago

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I wouldn't worry about rose purgatory. After all, you're planting on YOUR side of the fence, lol. I say go for it. But if you haven't completely settled on Treasure Trove you might look at some I've grown.

If you're thinking in terms of coverage and securing your perimeter against mean neighbors and/or zombies, there's nothing like the sempervirens ramblers. I've grown all these I mention below (except Awakening. It's new this year) in my zone 7a without any problem. The only time any of them had dieback was after the Arctic Express back in the 80's when we set the record of -24F. All of them are healthy for me.

My favorite is Francois Jaranville, a beautiful warm pink/peach. Gardenia is a great warm white with hint of creamy yellow. It will bloom in some shade and gets HUGE. I'm talking 30+ feet. Of course there is my pink trio: Dr W. Van Fleet, New Dawn and Awakening (once-blooming dad, reblooming sport-daughter, and double reblooming grand-daughter, lol). There are many other sempervirens climbers to look at on HMF, some more rambunctious than others, and I assume you want a BIG rose.

If you're concerned about hardiness, you might look at the setigera climbers. Some are house eaters as well, but in general are hardier than the sempervirens. Long John Silver (white) and Baltimore Belle (pink) are big, boisterous and bountiful.

If you just want to block the view, you probably couldn't do better than good old climbing Mlle Cecile Brunner. If you can track it down, there's an elusive reblooming form somewhere out there. Mine has rebloomed a smattering in the past when I've done some judicious pruning right after the Spring flush, but it's getting much too big to bother with.

If I were you, I'd contact Lynette, aka oldrosarian. There isn't much about climbing roses she doesn't know, and not many she hasn't grown! And her photos...oy vey!

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jacqueline9CA
7 years ago
How about a re-blooming rose? HMF says Madame Alfred Carriere (which is a tea/noisette) is hardy to zone 7b. Others on here have said colder. It gets over 30 feet tall in my garden, climbs up trees, over garages, over fences & up the neighbor's fir tree (I have 3). Here it blooms 11-12 months of the year. Even if it did not bloom in the wintertime for you, it is amazingly continuous blooming.

Or, I think there are some re-blooming ramblers now that are OK for colder weather. Just seems as if you are going to have that much rose on the property line, your neighbors would enjoy one which bloomed a lot more.

Jackie
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Even the best fences can need repairs from time to time. Depending on how vicious the rose is that you plant, you may be setting yourself up for some future difficulties.
campv 8b AZ
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PS if it was me I would just plant a long thick high hedge
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toolbelt68
7 years ago
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Why mess with the fence when you can just build something up close to your viewing area that will block them out.

Two posts with a 1/4” x 12” x 8’ pressure treated strip of lattice attached between them, at the top of the posts, can block a huge area that is far away. If you were to stagger a few sets of posts-lattice on your property the neighbors could be completely blocked from view. They wouldn’t have to be even close to the fence. This also gives you a good reason to plant more than one rose bush…. lol Two climbers, one per post, when meeting in the center of the lattice strip would not only make the foot wide strip of lattice disappear but make a bigger screen.

The height of each set of posts would be determined by the distant away from your viewing area.

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