OOPS. I forgot a really unique climber. The glitch is still alive!! Doesn't want to post.

SOARING SPIRITS

You are such a tease, roses that would(presumably) do well in my garden but are not available? I've fallen in love with quite a few of them as I'm restricted to climbers, filled in all the ground spaces. Beautiful photos.

Love all your roses! I am getting a Bolero this spring, can't wait. Please send budwood to Palatine, so they won't disappear. I'd love to grow them all. :-)

I found an Etain! Is it a good rambler? Does it repeat? Some say yes, some say no......

Etain has flowers that lwere a little smaller than most ramblers.I found that if you had clay soil the colour would be different than sandy soil. I had sandy soil and Etain was a coral pink.It's a good, clean rambler but not as large as many of the others. I grew it on a 5 foot fence and it went 15 feet in both directions. I didn't prune it back hard.

There's something about your photography that makes each rose so desirable. Thanks for the delicious eye candy.

Thanks Lynnette! I have clay soil here, will have to wait and see the color difference. Yours is lovely, I hope I can get that color. Is it a once bloomer for you?

Regarding to this link http://www.herbs2000.com/flowers/r_c_climb_ramb.htm

"This is one of the few ramblers that repeats its bloom and grows best in light shade".

Is that true?

I got one really good bloom period and then I got "scattered flowers" afterwards.

Matt is Stuck in Traffic When you take a photo of a rose, take the unopened bud, the newly opened bud, an open bloom and some leaves. This sort of "attaches" the rose to the bush. If you want to use water on the rose, use it only on the leaves so it doesn't distort the look of the rose petals. Plus only take pictures of roses in the early morning light and the evening light. Sunlight can make the rose colour look too harsh. White roses only on a dull day.

Thank you for the good news! Very happy to hear that. It should be here Thur. :-)

Thanks for those tips oldrosarian. Your photos are fantastic.

Your photos are exquisite, some of the best on the Forum. I totally agree about photographing in the morning or evening. Diane

That's it! Great photography tips oldrosarian, I'll keep those in mind next time I bring out the camera to practice.

Lovely photos, OldRosarian, and thanks for the photo tips! Many of these roses are unfamiliar, but I do have a White Cockade, Soaring Spirits, and Bolero (but mine is white only, with no pink - I wonder if the climber is different than the bush pure white rose). I think Burlington still sells Soaring Spirits if you want to give it a try, and I seem to remember running into White Cockade recently somewhere (maybe Cool Roses or A Reverence for Roses). For me, White Cockade hasn't been that enthusiastic a climber but it has survived our winters with canes so that has to count for something!

Cynthia

Patty, Where did you find your WHITE COCKADE? I am getting a Bolero from Hortico this spring, it's light pink/cream.

Lynette, it's spelled Goldener Olymp, and mine is just three years old. But I can't remember where I got it (I think maybe Hirt's Greenhouse?); I'll have to go through some records. But as of three years ago, SOMEONE still offered it, lol. It's a great rose for me, very little disease, lots of blooms, but more thorns than I like to deal with (but hey, I grow New Dawn, too, lol).

John

Nippstress....My Bolero is a Poulsen climber from Denmark. It is the first climber that he reduced the terminal buds so the laterals would produce lots of buds and the climber wouldn't stop blooming. All very complicated to me.

Lace Cascade is now available at Annie's Annuals, I received mine this morning.

I just can't resist fig-insanity...my name is spelt with two ns. Gotcha ya!!

@fig_insanity Z7b E TN, no one currently on the forum grows Golden Olymp. I'm growing some cuttings of this rose that I've accidentally mislabeled so I'm wondering if you have any good pics or comments that may help ID it. I'd also love to hear any musings about it that you care to add. Thank you.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley I lost my GO just this year to rose rosette, unfortunately. I tried to save it when I noticed symptoms last Fall. But this wasn't one of the 50% I've managed to pull through by whacking it back. I can tell you two things that really stand out, though. One, the buds are flaming, dark scarlet orange. Shocking almost. Think dark vermillion orange, darker than Tropicana. You think that this MUST be a blazing orange rose, surely not a pastel apricot rose. The other is that it's a thorny beast, somewhat like New Dawn, but with shorter, stiffer canes. There's no training this rose around an obelisk or pillar, lol.

I don't have any pics. I'm sorry about that. But until it got sick, it was a glorious thing in bloom, with the buds really contrasting with the open flowers (and I don't like orange roses). The buds rapidly fade upon opening to a lovely apricot/yellow, sometimes with the petal edges tipped in scarlet. I'll miss it next Spring. And now I'll probably never be able to replace it.

As an aside, re-visiting this thread really makes me miss Lynnette. She was a source of knowledge that will be irreplaceable.

John

EDIT: I just thought of something else. The foliage is thick and very glossy, almost plastic-y; typical of a lot of Kordes' modern roses. I suspect it has R. kordesii genes. Hope that helps.

Thank you for your quick and informative response. What a SHAME you lost it. If I find it's one of the roses that successfully rooted I will gladly send you cuttings or a baby plant. I believe this is a rose that should remain available as it is also fairly hardy. Did you find it healthy in terms of BS or do you spray for fungal diseases?

Do you grow Autumn Sunset? I wonder how it compares to it not just in flower and bud, but in growth habit, thorns and fragrance. The issue is I now have quite large cuttings filling out gallon containers, but I'm not sure if they're Autumn Sunset or Golden Olymp! Your description of the leaves is very useful. I wish folks posted more leave and cane pictures to HMF to help with IDs! I dis-bud my cuttings until I plant them so I haven't been able to see any buds or flowers yet. I had hoped to plant one of them now, in case they don't overwinter successfully in my attached garage, but I guess I'll have to take my chances. Of course, the one set of cuttings whose ID got messed up was the one with the least amount of pictures and info.

Thinking of it, I saved the link to Oldrosarian's pictures, so maybe I'll look there. I can't see any of the old pics on my devices from these threads. : (( All those who went before are so missed. That's certainly a void that's hard to fill for many reasons.

P.S. How was its rebloom? Did you have your in full sun?

Vap, first I want to thank you for the offer of a GO plant. If you discover you do have it, I'd be thrilled. I'd be glad to swap anything I have potted, or would try to root anything else I have for you.

I do grow Autumn Sunset. It's one of my favorites. I disliked (definitely past tense) Westerland (orrrrrannnnnge!), its sport parent, but I love AS.

GO was very healthy, until it got rosette disease. I do spray a few things, but only in have-to cases for roses I love too much to let go, but that have a b**t-ugly case of BS if I don't, lol. Out of almost 200 roses, I spray maybe 10, and GO was never one I felt really needed it.

My GO was in full sun from about 1 to sundown. But in a place with not-great air circulation (which probably contributed to the mites landing on it. Don't plant roses where air speed drops!).

Autumn Sunset is the much the larger plant here, but it was a few years older, so I'm not sure that's a good indicator. But it does seem to want to throw longer canes. As for rebloom, again AS was the older plant, but it definitely is the bloomier plant after the first flush.

AS isn't as thorny as GO, and I'm pretty sure what it does have aren't as quite deadly, lol. As for scent, some say they both have strong fragrance. For me, I'd say middling, but pleasant. I wouldn't rate one over the other, though AS is probably a little more complex, slightly fruity.

I think the leaves might be different enough for you to tell the difference. The leaflet on AS is almost a perfect pointed oval, symmetrical lengthwise AND crosswise, the same shape on both ends. You can divide it in half in either direction and the halves almost match (I just went out with a flashlight to look, lol).

On GO, the tip end is narrower and more pointed than the stem end, just the typical rose leaf shape. My AS also has very distinct raised ribs between the veins of the leaflets, where GO's leaflet (if I'm remembering right) is much more smooth and flat. Oh, and speaking of remembering right, I think I'm mis-remembering the glossiness of the leaves. The leaves of GO ARE very thick, like I said above, but it's AS that has the glossier leaves. Sowwy :P

I hope that's not too muddled for you, and that I answered all your questions.

John

EDIT: I meant to mention that I don't have any blooms on AS right now, or I'd describe the sepals. My memory definitely isn't good enough for that, lol.

John, that was a fantastic explanation! I'm ready to get out my flashlight right now and go and inspect. Lol! :-) I'm very excited to have this Rose. Fingers crossed for these cuttings cuz I don't want to jinx them.

Oh this thread makes me miss Lynnette our dear Old Rosarian. I am fortunate that she gifted me with several of these roses including Times Past, Goldstern, Golden Olymp, and Crimson Cascade. I so miss being able to visit her in her garden and her generous sharing of knowledge and plants. For those of you who want to see more of her beautiful photography, here is a link to website my husband made from a dvd of her photos.

http://www.or.thesweetoasis.com/zenphoto/Climber/

Glad to hear that. I miss her too. I have her rose babies through Palatine. How is her dog doing?

Yes Palatine has a bunch of her roses. I think her dog was given to a friend.

Oh that’s good to know. I was worried about that cute little dog.

John, your leaf description really helped nail the Austumn Sunset plants. The foliage is really so distinctive and almost tropical looking. I looked through various pictures including those of the much missed Lynnette, to find examples of Golden Olymp's leaves, to no avail. @roserobin_gw, would you by anychance have any hints about IDing GO from her foliage? I will post pics of the roses in question in a bit. Thank you in advance for any help.