I have had old peduncles start forming new buds while the cutting is still rooting. I have had old peduncles abort while the cutting is still rooting. And I have some old peduncles on already rooted cuttings that have yet to bloom.

I've generally found peduncles on cuttings don't last.

I love buying cuttings with peduncles on them. Once the plant has established itself roots I give the peduncle a little scratch with a tooth pic and if it bleeds I was under the impression it's still viable. Have yet to have a peduncle bloom on a cutting for me though :/

I have a cutting that is blooming now in a cutting. But the buds were already a bit formed when i got the cutting.

What is your Undulata looking like these days?

Looking good! Has what looks like a peduncle forming. Not digging it out for photos right now, not a watering day, and I am recovering from a medical procedure.

Where's the hubby at? Why can't he do it!? LOL J/K

Do you mind if i ask you how long are the internodes of you Villosa short?

Mine is growing after fertilization and the internodes are annoyingly long. I would like the plant to be more compact. I don't think they can really be trained either!

1. He can't photograph to save his life. Plus, he is on Duty.

2. My villosa has some internodes that are quite spaced out, but others are closeer together. Higher light (but not BRIGHT, bright, and of, course no direct sun) seems to make for a more compact plant.

And they can be trained! Just start training when new vines are still relatively younger and more supple.

One more question about the Villosa Short. The vine had 2 sets of leaf buds and now a 3rd set is forming. But the leaves have not started to grow yet! When will they start growing? lol I fell like they might just dry up and die if they dont start growing.

I also have my AP 1033 or whatever it is! It has the tiny little leaf buds at the side too. 3 sets. and they are just sitting there and the vine is getting longer. When will those leaves start to expand? UGH

OMG...the leaves on this one take FOREVER to grow!

You mean sp. 33 AP 1054? That one grows pretty quick for me. Leaves take a few weeks to get going, but mature more quickly when they do.

Tell me about it! My original plant keeps dropping the leaf buds! Probably since i hardy ever water it. But the cutting i took keesp growing the vine. I have to make sure to keep it watered so the buds dont dry up.

Yes! the 1054! The leaves do indeed grow fast. And mine are quite large compared to the leaves that were on the cutting when i received it. But this new vine needs to hurry up and start growing the leaves. Using the dyna grow/foliage pro whatever it is i have... made the leaves on it so big and splashy. I have now started to use a new fertilizer recommended by Susan.

It's called HB-101 maybe you have heard of it. When i watered the villosa and the 1054 with it, they zoomed into growth!