Weeds in new sod, need help with a plan!
David Chappell
7 years ago
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New to this and need some help - laying SA sod
Comments (4)Candicem81, THANK YOU for doing some homework! That's great!! Whether you need more soil is hard to answer without seeing the layout. Chances are you already have too much topsoil because, while many people topdress, hardly anyone removes any soil from their garden. Bringing in more topsoil always changes your drainage and usually that change is for the worse. I never suggest bringing in more topsoil unless you've had a wash out. I would not put anything down first. Everything goes down on top of the new grass. That includes compost and fertilizer. Don't fertilize for several weeks. The grass will have been recently fertilized before packing onto the trucks. If you fertilize again, you stand a good chance of over fertilizing and creating a fungal disease problem for yourself. In fact, I would not do anything except water until Memorial Day...if you lay the sod now. Did you read enough to know that you back off on the watering once the grass is tall enough to mow? By back off, the rule is deep and infrequent. Infrequent means monthly in the cool months and weekly in the hottest heat of summer. Deeply means 1 inch, all at one time. Do not spread out your watering over the week. That is an invitation to weeds. Mulch mow at your mower's highest setting. That should be at least 4 inches high. That's perfect. In the heat of summer, when the grass becomes stressed from the heat, stop mowing altogether for a month. Tall St Aug can withstand MUCH more heat and drought than scalped St Aug. Hope this helps....See Morepre emergent or weed control on new sod
Comments (3)I probably wouldn't use preemergents before laying new sod, as many of them prevent cell division, thus preventing or slowing your grass' roots from growing. Weed killers on the other hand should be fine (check the labels first) as the grass is considered mature and the selective herbicides shouldn't affect them a few weeks after it is installed (I say a few weeks because weeds will probably take a while to pop up through the sod)....See MoreWeed Identification Help - New KGB Sod
Comments (13)Sure looks like tall fescue. TF is not invasive. Very few tall fescues have rhizomes and thus don't even repair well, a TF fault. There's no root intertwining and so sod is grown on plastic netting so it can be lifted and handled. It has to be overseeded occasionally, unlike (spreading) KBG, the King. But yes, a stray TF seed can cause this trouble. If you only have a little of it, just trowel out the crowns, easy when the soil is damp. Hairlike roots probably won't regenerate a plant. Or,with isolated clumps, I have occasionally used an artist's brush to apply Roundup carefully so as not to kill adjacent grass....See MoreNeed organic help! on el toro sod new install
Comments (11)I'm in Pensacola, Fl (though I'm not really new anymore!!). We had 36 pallets (yep! ..a lot!) of El Toro installed in the Spring of 2010, and it is/was INCREDIBlY beautiful. But I've had my ups & downs. The ups are that I treated it organically only, so far, by not using any chemicals, but I did fertilize it 3 times over the spring and summer with rabbit food pellets (alfalfa pellets). The alfalfa pellets helped the roots take exceptionally fast, except along the house where there's shade, and under 2 large oak trees, where there's only about 4 hours of sun/day. So, where I had a lot of sun, and had put down alfalfa, it grew TOO well!! I was mowing twice per week, and (are you sitting down?) I was doing all this all summer long with a Fiskars Reel mower, the new orange one that came out that throws the grass forward, with NO catcher!!) Let's just say I was always mowing!! Every day, I would mow for about 1-2 hours, and use that as my exercise. After the large $$$ investment in the grass, I didn't see fit to buy a riding mower....just yet anyway. Actually, I LOVE the Fiskars mower, but I have almost an acre, and if the grass would grow more slowly, I think I'd be ok with it. So, although it greened up and took root, and was LUSH and THICK and quite possibly the prettiest grass in all of Pensacola, the down-side is that I don't think I can possibly repeat all that work again this coming summer. And the 1 other main problem I had was my own fault. On July 1st, with family/friends coming over for the July 4th weekend, I decided to cut the grass short so I wouldn't have to mow for the whole upcoming week. MAJOR MISTAKE!! I cut the 3" grass down to about 1". It looked FANTASTIC for the next week...and then, boom! It all turned brown! It took about 3 weeks for all of it to come back green again, but meanwhile, the weeds crept in, especially in the shaded areas under my 2 oak trees in the front yard. The side yards and back are in full sun, and though some weeds did get in, there aren't too many that I probably couldn't go in and hand-pull. But the weeds in the shaded area in the front yard (for all my inquisitive neighbors to gawk at) are getting worse throughout the winter and have pretty much taken over the zoysia. My question would be, when and what should I do, for either/or a pre-emergent, and/or post-emergent, even though I hate using chemicals. The alfalfa pellets were so amazing and even my roses and flowers on side beds were phenomenal, once I used alfalfa. I do have very sandy soil, and have been warned that if I ever go to using chemicals, I will kill off the GOOD nematodes, and will end up helping the BAD nematodes, and once I have the bad nematodes, this grass is pretty much a permanent bye-bye!! (Another neighbor about 10 yrs ago lost all his zoysia to bad nematodes) The only other problem I've had over the last 6 months or so, are mole hills and tunnels, and I've heard that I can use dishwashing soap in the water-sprayer to get rid of the bugs that attract the moles in the first place. I still have a bunch of mole hills/tunnels in the front yard, where there's shade and weeds. I've not really had any mole tunnels in the super sunny areas. So my questions are: 1. should I use chemicals for the weeds, and if so, what and when? 2. When should I scalp the grass this spring? And how short should I scalp it? 3. Should I keep using alfalfa, and when, and what else would help as far as fertilizer? 4. Any other thoughts?...See MoreDavid Chappell
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