Need help choosing soil or potting mix!
John M
7 years ago
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Is Seed starting mix the same as potting mix/soil?
Comments (6)No, seeds starting mix is finer so that roots do not get torn up when you pull seedling apart when separating community flats/pots. It is mostly vermiculite peat moss and a bit of lime/dolomite to adjust pH. Potting mix is coarser and usually contains composted materials such as pine bark and other (originally) woody materials, often with a fluffer such as perlite or styrofoam, and lime/dolomite for pH adjustment. It can be used for starting seeds if you are not planning on pulling the plants out of the mix (I use it for starting everything). Potting soil is often much denser/heavier because it contains actual soil, I have seen it advertized for things that are to be permanently grown outside in containers like shrubs in planters, but someone else might have more info on this than me. Potting mix is usually better for most things than potting soil. For all of them you would have to check the bag to see if they contain starter fertilizer....See MoreMiracleGro Potting Mix versus SuperSoil Potting Soil ???
Comments (9)Do you have an easy recipe of making your own mix for a gardening-beginner? Yes. I would recommend using what is known around here as 'Al's 5-1-1 mix' for annuals and perennials grown for just a year or two before being repotted. For plants that will stay in the same container/mix for more than 2 years I would recommend what is known around here as 'Al's Gritty mix'. The 5:1:1 mix is 5 parts pine bark (very small pieces), 1 part perlite and 1 part peat. The gritty mix is 1 part pine bark fines, 1 part Turface MVP and 1 part grower grit (#2 sized). For more information on this I will refer you to this thread. Don't get too hung up on specific ingredients and percentages. The principle is using ingredients that will be of a large enough size (above 1/16th inch) for as long as the plant will be in the mix. This provides superior aeration. The higher the percentage of organic matter such as peat or bark, the faster the mix breaks down and aeration suffers. The bark breaks down much slower than peat though. Anyway, read the thread and you will learn a lot. If you can't find suitable ingredients to make your own mix in time to get the season started then just get the regular MG potting mix and take until next year to learn more and locate sources for ingredients you want....See MoreI am having a potting party - need soil recipe/mix.
Comments (9)The way the particle size distribution of the gritty mix is supposed to work ensures good water retention, but with no or negligible volumes of perched water to affect root health/function. It's important that the small particles be removed to accomplish this lest they filter in between the large particles, rendering the soil supportive of perched water and eliminating one of the most significant advantages of the mix. Another significant advantage is the aeration inherent in a well-made gritty mix, which would also be a casualty of neglecting to ensure the sizes of the particles are appropriate. If you don't screen the particles, what you end up with is a mix that will perform like a lot of other mixes, and whose only essential variance from most other mixes would be its structural stability, a derivative of the fact that it has a 2/3 mineral component and the organic fraction (bark) breaks down very slowly. This is one of the less significant attributes of the soil though, because inevitably a plant needs repotting long before there would be even a hint there was a hint the soil had structurally degraded. In fact, with a 2/3 mineral fraction, even if the entire bark fraction was to break down or gas off, the soil would still be perfectly servicable. I don't think I've ever really listed the attributes of the gritty mix, so: A) No or very little perched water - the most important (root health) B) Excellent aeration (root health) C) Extremely forgiving and easy to grow in D) Adjustable for water retention E) Serviceable indefinitely - won't collapse (root health) F) Easy to make, once ingredients are located & you're set up to screen I love to see people using it, but I have to be honest. If you can't find the ingredients or suitable substitutes, or don't want to screen them, I don't think it's a good investment of time/effort to make something that will perform similar to a from the bag mix. More important than a recipe, is the concept. The gritty mix is simply the best way I've found to implement the concept described in the thread I'll link to below. I honestly feel that an understanding of the information in the thread represents the largest forward step a container gardener can take at any one time. Root health is often overlooked or given short shrift; but it's very important to realize that a healthy plant is impossible w/o a healthy root system. Roots are indeed the heart of the plant, so it pays to keep them happy. ;-) Best luck. Have fun at the party! Al Here is a link that might be useful: Learn about soils ........See MoreAutumn Moon in pot. Do I use soil or potting mix
Comments (1)You must use potting soil! And a good quality one at that. Garden soil, even amended garden soil, is too dense and does not provide sufficient drainage. In container gardening, drainage and aeration is key. For woody plants that intend to be maintained long term in a container you need a very textural and durable potting soil. So no MiracleGro :-) Stuff like that is far too fine a texture and collapses too quickly, limiting drainage and reducing aeration.. I've attached a link to a long-running thread from the Container Gardening forum on growing trees in containers. The author - Al - is one of the most experienced and knowledgeable container gardeners around. Take everything he says as the gospel!! You will also find various recipes for quality potting soils on that forum, should you choose to make up your own. If purchasing, you want something that has a coarse, barky texture. Farfard (#52) and Metro Mix are a couple of names you could look for. Here is a link that might be useful: Trees in Containers...See MoreJohn M
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