Towering Rose Magic aka Soeur Emmanuelle
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Comments (36)Diane - gorgeous picture of Frederick Mistral, and it eases my heart to see so many of you describe him as a zone 7+ rose. I had one perfectly gorgeous year from him and have since tried three times to get him to survive my winters. Based on your advice, this is his last year, as he now has space in the fussy pants bed that is my "live or hit the highway" spot. With my luck, he'll hover in some suspended animation between life and death like a lot of marginally hardy roses in all their knee high glory. Yep flowersaremusic - the only staff I have is the one my kids will give me some day to support my achin' back after too many years of stooping to plant and prune roses. No one else in the family does more than occasionally appreciate them, though my kids help with the fruits and vegetables occasionally (mostly eating - they're both taller than my 5' 9" at 15). I am probably one of the ones you recall saying I am a minimalist in rose care, and I do indeed literally throw alfalfa at them in the spring for a little top dressing. This year I really exerted myself to put out a cup of 10-10-10 and Ironite once this spring, and that was extraordinary care in my world. They get nothing but their decomposing leaf compost the rest of the year, though they start out with good soil and reasonable rain as Diane mentions. I'm sure they'd be happier with more food, but frankly I didn't see much benefit from the spring feeding this year so I am not that eager to repeat things. This time of year I spend maybe 3 hours a week deadheading and photographing them, and beyond that they're on their own. I don't remotely fuss over them, and I rarely find that it makes a difference if I do. Back to the topic of Romanticas, I've been pretty impressed with Guy de Maupassant now that I have him in the fussy pants bed and he has survived the winter. He comes back with nice growth in spring, and like so many roses that say they're short he actually wants to be a 4' or taller bush even after being cut to the ground in spring. Nice large clusters as you can see from the photo below with buds waiting to pop, and good large full blooms in a dark carnation pink that doesn't fade too much. I have high hopes for Honore de Balzac that's on the Palatine list for spring, and he gets a good spot as well. Michelangelo and Toulouse-Lautrec were among the "zombie" roses that limped along in my warm bed to finally succumb, so they're probably in the same category as Fred. Cynthia...See MoreHelp z6a North MO choose two roses from Hortico
Comments (41)Looks like a great list, AC91z6! You should have fun with those roses (including the Firefighter you replaced for the sold out Munstead Wood. Glad I could help talk you into Felix LeClerc. My Therese Bugnet is 7 years old own root from Burling and it prime full sun. I really can't say I'd recommend her at all, and I toy with digging out Therese and her nearby companion Fimbriata (Bear in mind that I've only deliberately shovel pruned 3 roses out of 1000 to put this into perspective, though of course I've had 100's die without my help). They have only sporadic bloom for about 2 weeks but TONS of vegetative growth that does virtually nothing. So far they've been spared the shovel because they're such early bloomers, but they're getting the interim treatment of pruning them almost to the ground after bloom. That's what I do for Variegata di Bologna and I've occasionally been able to coax a little fall bloom out of him this way. I kept leaving TB and Fimbriata at full height thinking surely they'd rebloom when mature, but 7 years is too long to wait for that. Linda Campbell is a vastly superior rugosa in my zone, and our climates are similar. Karen, glad to help with the cheap and easy idea about the pots. Note that these are not rabbit proof since the bunnies have learned to nudge the pots over if they really want what's inside, and they can nibble at what extends beyond the pots as well. My pots are the black gallon ones Roses Unlimited sells so they're a bit at risk for burning foliage in the really hot parts of summer (assuming you get spells of 90+ for long). I'll often pull back the pots by July or so if the rose gets up to a good height. Green would be less noticeable in the landscape, but like you I have soooo many pots after a history of large orders from RU and elsewhere that I need to use what I have. Here's a shot of a shade bed showing two of those pots - one with a tiny rose on the left not visible below the pot and one on the right that's peeking beyond. If I get a lot of them in a bed they look a little odd, but this many of them look acceptable to me (at least better than missing roses that the bunnies ate). Cynthia...See MoreGarden Tour and Rose Photos Galore
Comments (42)Several times I have looked at your glorious garden, and I still can't pick my favorites. Picking favorites is human nature, of course. But I do have memories of certain of your abundant blooms and their combinations that have really penetrated my old brain fog. I remember Peggy Martin on the fence, Iceberg on the arches, and Climbing Pinkie on the umbrella trellis. So, in those cases, the structures are an important part of both displaying the roses and preserving my memories. But in other cases, it was the combination of roses that was outstanding, like Falstaff and Iceberg, or the wall of "desserts". And how the special roses worked together was what made them so memorable. Sometimes the outstanding singular nature of a rose came through strongly to me like the huge size of the Yves Piaget blooms. or the blazing color of Chrysler Imperial, not to mention the age of the grafted CIs. Such an enduring rose that one is. So putting all these together, plus the roses' wonderful companions, has made many special lasting rose memories for me. Thanks for the memories, Cori Ann. Diane...See MoreOpinions wanted! Are these roses too similar to grow together?
Comments (2)I think growing roses in a similar color range gives you a very cohesive look. When trying to landscape with roses repeating the same rose or in this case similar colors looks very harmonious. I would not plant Princess Charlene in any shade in your area. I have her here in 7b north Alabama which should be very similar to your zone in all day sun and she is doing well. Any less than full sun and she will get some blackspot. I love your rose selection, spirit of freedom is a special rose....See MoreCori Ann - H0uzz violated my privacy
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7 years agoI got it last spring and I'd say mine got about 4 ft tall. Beautiful blooms. It may grow taller but I prune mine back after flushes. It's beautiful. It's repeat wasn't very fast but that was its first year. I have two. Here's a small bouquet of it.
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7 years agolast modified: 7 years agoNot the best photos but I quickly popped outside just to give you an idea on how it grows:
Towering rose magic on the arch on the left with stormy weather on the front arch.
lovely hips with lots of seeds :-)
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6 years agoMy Soeur Emmanuel aka Towering Rose Magic just bloomed for the first time. I still have it in a pulp pot as I decide where it should go. It has a wonderful fragrance and lilac pink blooms. Leaves have a little black spot which usually isn't not an issue here at all... but it's still a baby so I'm not holding it against it. Seems to be able to take full sun and dry heat very well in my yard. The blooms do look a lot like the ones you posted in your bouquet Pretty Petals. It's understandable how you got mixed up! :-)
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6 years agoMine is for sure a towering rose! I pruned it back and it STILL gets over 7ft. I def need it on an arch. I absolutely LOVE the blooms though. Sooo pretty!
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6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoWow, I'm jealous! Mine in a surviving mode right now. Holds pretty good though. Shorty, up to my knees I think. Last week it rewarded me with these tiny blooms :)
that reminded me that some time in spring it was gorgeous, almost like yours, ladies :) This is how it looked like back then:
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6 years agoHi everyone, it’s so interesting to see the variations in performance with SE. My plant is grown in the UK and the wet weather often means that the buds even sometimes rot because of how full-petalled SE is, so it’s really nice to see how well your blooms opened Cori Ann! Here are mine from last year, where they actually didn’t do too badly.
It does have an interesting fragrance- very distinctive; strong (but sweet) anise, but aniseed/licorice is not my favourite essence. ;) Still, I adore this rose! I find its growth to be erect, with healthy foliage (though everything had black spot and powdery mildew this year- ESPECIALLY David Austin’s Shropshire Lad). For me, the height was about 4 feet while growing in a 43cm pot but this is only the second year since planting, and I get a sense that it can grow taller!
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5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoHi Totoro !!
Mine definatly had rebloom , was pretty healthy ( I can’t remember it being unhealthy ! ) and it does stand upright. In my first year it is at least 4 ft tall . I don’t think a trellis is needed. But how close to a walk? Seems like this gal wants to be big .
Loved the fragrance and the colors of this !
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