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It's February, 2017- How is your build progressing?

mushcreek
7 years ago

A new month, and new stories to tell! For such a short little month, February can be a bear in the northern parts of the country. We'll all be waiting to see if Mr. Groundhog sees his shadow tomorrow, dooming us to another 6 weeks of winter and challenging building conditions. Progress goes on , however, and we love to see it all. Post up those pics of raw dirt, foundations, new walls, drywall, or ready to move in; we love 'em all!

For the newbies- I reintroduce myself from time to time. I built my own home, and enjoy the process so much that I still hang around here. Like many big projects, it will likely never be truly 'done', as I'm still finishing some things, and starting new projects. A couple days ago, I fitted another piece to the puzzle that was planned from the very beginning. I created a transition from the small foyer to the main hall, and built a transom over it. A friend of mine is a stained glass artist, and made this panel for us, based on one in the old country church we attend. I liked the simple lines and clean look.



But enough about me- This is your place to show what you've been up to!

Comments (147)

  • zorroslw1
    7 years ago

    Hi Rob,

    How exciting for you! Congrats.

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  • User
    7 years ago

    mbaldauf6112, I hope your mother is doing better now. Both my mil and my mother were hospitalized this month, so we had to drop everything and be with them. Stressful, isn't it? ;)


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    artemis_ma, I love the log cabin look in your home, and the cabinet doors in your bathroom. Is the exterior logs too? What is your shower fixture? I really like it. Our shower will also be accessible but I am having trouble finding a shower fixture that is adjustable height AND the shower head angles toward the bather, not down.


    kirbyyy86, your home looks great. Love the brick color with the stone.


    jamieeap, I love the graceful curves of your house. I haven't been following along here much because of limited internet during our transition. Did your house get wet inside or just outside?


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    housequester, when are you going to build the shed? If after you are in the house, maybe he will change his mind after being in the finished house awhile. Or if it is a material that will be painted, maybe prime in a neutral color so he can see what that looks like first?


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    am_e, I bookmarked your photos to show dh your bathroom cabinets. Love all the detail in your bathrooms.

  • jkliveng
    7 years ago

    Am_e, what are your kitchen counter tops?

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  • Am E
    7 years ago

    Hey Barn - thanks! I'm pretty happy with how the bathroom finishes are turning out.

    jkliveng - the kitchen counters are soapstone. They are not oiled right now, so are lighter/grayer in color, but even so, the color looks odd to me in the photo I posted. Much lighter (and almost purple? (on my monitor)) than in real life.

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  • User
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    am_e, great information on your blog about your mini-splits. That is something we have been considering also, but I never thought of doing the calculations (I found an online calculator). The hvac company told us that the cost for our house will be about the same for both mini-splits and a conventional ducted system. However, our walls will be a foot thick, foam insulation, and the main living area will have double doors which can act as air lock during extreme temperatures. Now I'm interested in seeing what difference that will make in the calculations. thanks!

  • mushcreek
    Original Author
    7 years ago

    +1 on the minisplits. I used an on-line calculator, and did most of the installation myself. Our house is very tight and well-insulated, and the results are amazing. They are extremely efficient, and nearly silent, both inside and out. Our Mitsubishi units are good to -13 F.

  • housequester
    7 years ago

    Hey Barn, they will be starting work on the shed in the next month, so we won't be in the house yet. We had photos of the two color combinations we were considering and took the photos and the actual siding samples (both of our house and the possibles for the shed) to various people with color/design sense to ask opinions. The overwhelming opinion was to go with the red. My kitchen designer has been very helpful in many decisions on the house as a whole (looking at how flooring/countertops fit in with the cabinets we're buying from her, etc.) and we happened to be at her place the other day and asked her. She pulled in her boss and they both agreed on the red, even though they tend to like opposite color tones (warm vs. cool). So, we're going with the red and I'm holding my breath. It's not so much that I don't like the red--it's a nice, dark red--but it's just in such a prominent place. They convinced me that putting things like dark red flowerpots on the porch or porch furniture with cushions in that color would help tie everything together.

  • housequester
    7 years ago

    Build update: We are nearly closed in: many of the windows are in and the shingles are going on the roof. They plan to pour the concrete in the basement sometime in the next few days. It's been such a mild February that they can do that; their original plan was to wait much longer.

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  • Am E
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Hey Barn - I recommend using more than one online calculator, they sometimes yield different results. (Sorry I don't have the links for a couple of the ones we used handy).

    We have a SIPS (Structural Insulated PanelS - so, foam walls) with 6-in walls, and 8-in roof. You have double that, so your house must be built to nearly passive house standards. (That did not pay for us in NC, I'm assuming you are much further north than we are). If your contractors understand passive house design, your HVAC company may in fact be giving you good recommendations. If not, I would be very skeptical, and get a second opinion (and do the calcs yourself). With insulation like that, there is no way I would let the contractors do whatever they recommend, its likely very wrong.

    We haven't lived in the house yet, but all signs point to ducted mini-splits being the superior technology. (Non-ducted are more efficient, if you can use those, do so.)

  • gthigpen
    7 years ago

    Quick update.......we got official APPROVAL from the city Board of Adjustments for our front setback variance request. Hallelujah! We were basically told that they normally would deny a request such as ours (caused by our mistake) but because we were so well organized, had a well thought out presentation and had neighbors show up in support of us, they approved it. I'm so happy to have that behind us.

  • housequester
    7 years ago

    gthigpen: I'm glad to hear it. What a relief!

  • User
    7 years ago

    Great news gthigpen!

    am_e, the two hvac companies that gave us bids had never done a home like this so I do wonder about their recommendations. Here is one of the online calculators I found. I didn't bookmark the others. https://www.coolcalc.com/products/manual-j#

    Does it look familiar? There were several, so I'll take your advice and do several.

    We are in Texas, so a little further south and probably a lot hotter. In the summer, we rarely drop below 75 and can weeks of 100+ temps. I have always wanted to build a passive solar, but just couldn't make that work, but we did incorporate a lot of passive measures. Or we hope it works that way.

    mushcreek, I'd like to talk to you sometime about how you did it yourself. We are so over budget right now that if we could do that too, it would help.

    One of the main reasons I first wanted mini-splits is because of allergies and wanting to cut out as much ductwork as possible. I never thought they would be more efficient, but one hvac company told us they are much more efficient than central cooling, but less efficient than gas/propane central heat.


  • Am E
    7 years ago

    Hey Barn - here is one we used: http://loadcalc.net/

    DH also just did all the calcs by hand (in a spreadsheet).

    Sorry to keep dredging up this topic and clogging the thread, but it really sounds like you are a prime candidate for getting a really poorly designed HVAC system. I would definitely ask your contractors directly if they did Manual Js, or if they just looked up the square footage and picked the sizing recommended by the manufacturer. If the latter, your system is going to be very wrong for your house. You have so much more insulation than the average house; the typical tons/ft^2 will not be correct. Someone absolutely needs to run Manual Js for your house before specifying HVAC equipment.

  • ILoveRed
    7 years ago

    Thigpen...I looked and couldn't find a note where you discussed a need for a variance. Curious??? What caused this?

  • gthigpen
    7 years ago

    ILoveRed - I thought I mentioned it in this build thread....maybe it was January? Our foundation subcontractor placed our house 6' too far forward so we violated our front setback minimums for our neighborhood. He moved it without telling us, even though the plans had it correctly marked. It was sort of an honest mistake/judgment call on his part, but he definitely should have notified us first! The error was discovered after he had already drilled and poured concrete into 56 piers. And WE caught it....the city never did because they green-tagged us during foundation inspection and form board survey. But we wanted to do the right thing and not be looking over our shoulder the entire build waiting for an 'Oops, we missed it the first time so we need you to tear your house down' from the city. Plus any issues when we ultimately sell down the road. So we submitted all the proper paperwork/application back in December and our board hearing was yesterday. Nerve-wracking but so very happy to have that behind us with a full green light!

  • ILoveRed
    7 years ago

    Argghhh. So glad this worked out for you. I have a reason for asking.

    the setbacks on our lake lot are strictly enforced. We got a 5 ft variance for the front garage. But otherwise our house fits tightly in the building envelope. If the setbacks are not right we are are trouble. The engineer staked the corners for the basement and my dh thinks I'm nuts that I'm so paranoid about it.

    anyway..glad you don't have to look over you shoulder.

  • mushcreek
    Original Author
    7 years ago

    Re: HVAC calculations- I used HVACCalc, a $50 program. The key to any form of estimate is to be honest about insulation, sun exposure, etc. The program I used did not have ICF at the time, and we've found that the house performs a bit better than predicted, especially during the shoulder seasons when ICF really shines.

    As far as contractors go, I called a few early on, and one 'professional' told me I needed 2-1/2 tons, over the PHONE, without even SEEING the house! In reality, we use 1 ton for heating, and 3/4 ton for cooling, so his estimate was over 3 times the actual size needed, at least for A/C. It would have been expensive to run, very inefficient, and it would have done a poor job of dehumidifying.

  • User
    7 years ago

    Gthigpen: I have been wondering about your situation and hoping it all worked out. So happy for you!! That variance hung over my head like a dark storm cloud that put a real damper on our build as well as the holidays! Happy building to you!!

    We are really trudging along with cabinets, tile, and trim!!


  • lakeerieamber
    7 years ago

    You are flying, winonasue! Our flooring will start going down next week and the cabinets will be delivered the following week. This week the trim carpenters finished what they could do until after the cabinets and floors go in. They also finished the posts on the front porch.

  • User
    7 years ago

    Trim seems to take forever!!! Our hardwoods come on march 1 and no stone has been started so I feel like we are going to stall out at some point!!

  • gthigpen
    7 years ago

    ILoveRed - you are not nuts. After this, I'm going to be paranoid about everything.

    winonasue - Thank you! Dark cloud is a good way to describe it. Your place looks great and yes, it does seem like you are flying along!

  • DLM2000-GW
    7 years ago

    Say a little prayer, wish a little wish, send good thoughts out into the universe....hoping for our occupancy permit this afternoon. Since we have to be out of our rental house the 28th, it would be nice :-)

  • Fred M
    7 years ago

    Regarding the HVAC discussion. I too am building a SIPs house, and struggled mightily with finding a contractor that would listen. They all wanted to size the HVAC based on the square footage of the house. I used the governments free BeOPT program and that was telling me I needed a 1/3rd of the size based on the sizing of the square footage. Finally found a contractor who was willing to listen and he ran a Manual J and basically got exactly what the BeOpt program calculated for heat and cooling loads.

    The other thing to take into consideration that gets overlooked is the V in HVAC. Ventilation and fresh air are so important in these new building technologies because the building envelop is able to be so tight.

  • lakeerieamber
    7 years ago

    Best of luck, DLM! Keep us posted!

  • housequester
    7 years ago

    All I have to say is that this house can't be finished soon enough. Our upstairs doesn't have central heat in our ancient farmhouse and so far this winter our daughter's wall heater stopped working, our sons' heater vent melted (oh, dear) and our water heater is about to die. Besides this, I saw a large mouse in our panty the other night (I actually thought it was a rat but my husband disagrees) and we haven't caught him yet so I freak out whenever I have to go out there (the pantry is in the back entry and the basement stairs are there, too). We do get a few field mice every year coming in through our old stone basement foundation, but it's been worse this year. Aaaack! I just want OUT!

  • DLM2000-GW
    7 years ago

    GOT IT! However.... we're far from done. Not an ideal way to be moving into a new house and honestly that was my line in the sand. But that line in the sand got blown in the wind with hiccup after hiccup including DH's surgery - in fact the electricians are still chasing down a faulty wire in one bedroom (at least they narrowed it down that far, last night it was half the house) but the inspector knows them and has enough experience now with DH as owner/builder that he knows it's going to get done so gave us the C.O. Our stove and refrig are still in the garage :-/ no ceilings on our porches, LR beams need to be installed so the ceiling fan can go up, most of the doors are only primed and in the basement..... you get the picture.

  • cpartist
    7 years ago

    Congrats even if it's with a caveat DLM! How exciting either way.

  • User
    7 years ago

    DLM2000, congrats. Although it may be a little bit before you're perfectly settled, you've reached a major milestone!! No house is ever completely finished, is it? There's always something to do.

  • Ktdh
    7 years ago

    Congrats DLM! Lots of pics please :)

  • gthigpen
    7 years ago

    Congrats DLM!

  • User
    7 years ago

    Housequester... Do you live in my house?

  • housequester
    7 years ago

    @Farmer: Maybe. Does it seem a lot like ladygibbs' in the farmhouse renovation thread? LOL

  • User
    7 years ago

    Housequester: lol it does!

  • cpartist
    7 years ago

    Look what arrived on Friday. What's off out of the pic are the floor trusses. The framers were supposed to start today but will start on Monday.

  • artemis_ma
    7 years ago

    Hey Barn:

    I love the log cabin look in your home, and the cabinet doors in your bathroom. Is the exterior logs too? What is your shower fixture? I really like it. Our shower will also be accessible but I am having trouble finding a shower fixture that is adjustable height AND the shower head angles toward the bather, not down.

    Thanks. The builder found it after I specified what I wanted in the way of features. I will have to ask him. He was not there Thursday when I went up, but I will see him sometime this week and will ask. (I was going to pick one out but he got to it first, and I;m happy with his selection.)

    House update:

    The dining room light went up, it looks just like the living room one. The pantry overhead went up as well. They're working on the back deck since the weather has been balmy. No pictures, not enough change!


  • dazureus
    7 years ago

    We passed inspections for all rough mechanicals and rough construction and are starting on insulation and drywall this week. Basement stairs were trucked in and installed with the first floor stairs coming this week too. Exterior cedar siding is installed and the granite cobbles are almost completed. On track for an August COP.

    Front still needs some stone siding

    Back is almost complete.

    Gazebo fireplace, benches, and barbecue are being constructed.

    Turret spray foam and sound insulation in place. Second floor ceiling needs drywall for blow in, in the attic space.

    Stone is almost done in the back.

  • rdy2retire
    7 years ago

    We just spent some time back at our build site. Lots of progress being made. They made a lot of progress the week we were there due to some very mild temperatures.

  • DLM2000-GW
    7 years ago

    We're in....mostly. Ran out of steam yesterday. Just. Couldn't. Move. The. Beds. So we all spent a last night in a mostly empty house and tonight will be the first one in the new house which is a TOTAL disaster! We still have scaffolding in the LR because the beams are yet to go up, there's not a single interior door hung yet, not a closet rod or shelf to be found so no place to put clothes or coats - it's going to be interesting!!!

  • Les Raff
    7 years ago

    As mentioned way back at the beginning of the month, we are in our new home. We have now realized that having 5 different sets of light switches for outdoor lighting, and a bunch of lights my wife likes to have on for "mood lighting" are pains. We should update to some sort of smart home system. What have people used, and what would you recommend for those functions? Thanks.

  • ILoveRed
    7 years ago

    DLM...oh my. As long as you can plug in the coffee pot and find the coffee mugs. Hoping you have a better night tonight.

  • ILoveRed
    7 years ago

    Dazureus...love your stone. Very coastal.

  • Sunnysmom
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    cslaughter27 regarding appliances:

    I had a lot of problems with a new Samsung fridge and range in a previous remodel.

    For our new house, I went with the Kitchenaid with the pro looking handles. I was very close to going with the JennAir, with the current rebates the price difference was only a few hundred btw at a local appliance store. Then I was on the best buy website and saw the fridge as an open box with "like new" condition at a nearby store for almost $1K less, buying online did not offer delivery so I was a little hesitant at first. I chatted with the online rep and confirmed that if I did not like I could return with no issue, no restocking fee etc. I went by the store over the weekend to look at my purchase before arranging for someone to pickup, I saw an identical fridge for several hundred less than even what I had paid. I looked mine over and chatted with the sales manager, he agreed to reduce mine even more and since I added 2 more appliances I received all 3 for the 10% off. Total savings was over 2K less than the "best price" I could get from another local store during the presidents day sale and I don't have to wait for any rebates to show up on some prepaid debit card.

    There are no dings, dents, scratches etc and they wrapped it up while I was there and moved it to the back to wait for the delivery date.

    BB had free delivery AND install, also their 5 year warranty was less because the total price was less, that added to several hundred more in savings btw. Even if you are not interested in a display or open box item, it may be worth your time to go into the store and talk to them they may have more pricing options that what is available online.

  • jkliveng
    7 years ago

    sunnysmom, we just did something similar for our washer. They had an open box listed higher than the new retail price, but the manager took 20% off (floor guy couldn't do more than 10%). I've had great luck talking to the manager in those situations. Samsung sucks!

  • cslaughter27
    7 years ago

    Sunnysmom- We bought KitchenAid appliances during the best buy presidents day sale :) overall we paid about $5400 for all 4 appliances. counter depth fridge, dishwasher (the 39 db one), otr microwave and gas range. I really love the refrigerator. Plus I can send in the kitchenaid rebate for the stainless steel pots and pans, and we did the Best Buy card offer for 10% back in best buy certificates. So that was another $500 back.

    http://img.bbystatic.com/BestBuy_US/store/ee/2016/app/pr/EVN-19492/best-buy-kitchenaid.pdf

  • cslaughter27
    7 years ago

    I picked a new floor again! haha, again we had a rep come in to show us a new product that they are distributing and I really liked it. I don't think the picture really shows how pretty the color and texture is. This is a waterproof vinyl plank with registered embossing. 7"x60" planks. It is called Prime Waterproof Flooring. We will actually be sheet rocking soon so I won't be able to change my mind anymore :)