I hope Anja will forgive me, I visited Agave farms yesterday and went crazy buying roses, they have a lot of them from Lynn's Ludwig's list from another thread here... those mentioned above didn't have any blooms, but I had blooms on SUPER BOWL (totally unexpected purchase because of heavy fragrance) and SABINE BOSMAN (aka KISSING). Sabine doesn't have any fragrance to my nose. But both are with very thick petals that I hope will be able to withstand the heat and sun as well... can't say anything about their growth habit as they are still young... Now I'm doing a lot of thinking and planning and re-planning :)

Super Bowl aka Cologne, is a tall grandiflora that reaches about six or seven feet tall and about three feet wide. It is fully clothed by disease resistant leaves top to bottom, and rare for a grandiflora, also flowers from top to bottom. The large five inch flowers are fragrant and last well in the dry heat of summer in San Jose. Even when all the canes are cut down to 24" in the fall, the bush springs back again and regains its tall stature in a season. It's one of the best McGredy roses on the market, and the best Lavender or Grandiflora available.

Wow! what a treasure I bought! so good information, Romogen! seems like size wise I will need to rethink its place, for some reason Ludwig's website gives it moderate height... HMF reports the same size as you said though. It also states that "Michael at Michael's Premier Roses says the only modern rose that's more fragrant than this one is Double Delight" But I can argue with that. No DD that I sniffed had fragrance as strong as this beauty has. To my nose at least...

Natasha, I have both Candice and Roberto Capucci. I think RC's petals are firmer than Candice's and RC got about twice as tall as Candace. Candace stayed pretty bushy and RC did get leggy. Last year, both got mid-to-late afternoon shade. Candice produced more blooms and didn't fry. RC didn't produce very many blooms so I don't know if they'll fry or not. I'll be moving RC to a sunnier location with hopes that it'll bloom more this year because the blooms are so beautiful. To summarize, I'd put RC in more sun than Candace. I know our conditions aren't identical, but that's my plan for them this year. Enjoy!!

thank you, Natalie. I think I will leave Candice in a pot then. It will be easier to adjust the light for it... I recall RC planted under full sun in Ludwig's nursery (when they were there, May maybe) but then I couldn't find it as new owners disassembled all structures there and almost all signs with rose names were gone...