Shower Floor Grout Remains Wet Looking
Carl Goodwill
7 years ago
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Comments (7)"if the plumbing is behind layers of 1/2" cement backer board, paint on waterproofing (black waterproofing paint completely covers 1/2" backer board), the pan liner, and tile, how would water get to the inside of the shower pan and wick through the grout?" When I posted I didn't know how your shower was constructed. But if you have a topical waterproofing on your cement board and a pan liner on the floor, the pan liner membrane goes down and gets lapped up the walls 8" to 10" and gets stapled to the studs. The cement board on the walls goes over the pan liner. If there was a leak behind the wall, it could spray on the back of the cement board. It could run down the cement board and go between the cement board and the pan liner, wetting the mud in the floor. I'm not saying that is what's happening. But it's an option. I've seen it before. And you are correct, a water leak behind the wall could show itself in a ceiling below. With the "new news" that the grout is cracked, yes, water could be getting into that crack, thus the slow drying at that joint. In lightweight shower construction, changes in plane (wall-to-wall and wall-to-floor) should be caulked instead of grouted. The surfaces can move independently of one another. Caulk will flex with the movement, grout can crack. Also, if he used a "pan liner", it should have been set on sloped deck mud. Not flat on the subfloor, with sloped mud on top of the flat liner. The flat liner can cause moisture that gets under the tile (through your cracked grout for example) to pond. It can show as damp grout lines that are slow to dry. If the liner was sloped as required by code (which yours may be), the moisture will hit the sloped liner and flow towards the drain. If he used a topical membrane on the walls and on the floor instead of a pan liner on the floor, then all of the above is pretty much non-applicable. With a topical membrane on all shower surfaces, it's probably just latent water running down the shower head wall, or the crack in the grout storing water and being slow to dry....See MoreSealed grout still looks wet?
Comments (1)Looking wet is pretty normal. "Sealing" is commonly misunderstood. A sealer does NOT make it waterproof, it only inhibits staining and makes it a bit easier to clean......See MoreShower floor just installed, grout looks soaked/wet all the time?
Comments (5)Here's my latest response from my GC on how the shower was installed and his thoughts on fixing the project. ========================== The Shower pan was installed with a pre-slope. A positive weep hole protector was used during installation. The waterproofing system is a 30 mil pan liner that extends up the walls 18" on all sides. I did ask the tile installer about the typical time for a shower pan to dry out, 24 hours is not unreasonable, but 5 days is not typical. If the discoloration is caused by persistent moisture there is something not functioning properly. That being said, he is very confident in the installation of the pan liner and was personally on site while the work was being completed. He feels the discoloration is likely not related to the Pan holding water. However, we will reserve judgment until we have had a chance to inspect the shower together. "Assuming" we do not have a problem with the pan draining. One Idea our tile installer offered would be to replace the grout in the floor with an epoxy grout. Epoxy grout is going to discolor less with moisture, if we remove all of the existing grout on the floor we should get a more consistent color when we regrout, and epoxy grout will allow less water to penetrate through the finished surface to the pan liner. Of course, first we have to be sure that everything is working as designed. ======================...See MoreDoes my marble shower tile look wet?
Comments (14)Thinset at that thickness for your application with a breathable stone install cures in less than 30 days with a thinbed shower pan like you have . It should have initially been given a full cure prior to introducing water(after grouting). There is also rapid set thinsets that cure faster and theres also the wrong type of adhesive such as mastic or PRE mixed bucket grade glues. we dont know what you have. Dont be fooled by misinformation from some novice sales people on here about 2 months. If you want to verify if you have a grading/pooling issue as the cause. you stop using the shower. For at least a handful of days and perhaps put a dehumidifier in the shower to fully dry it out. it will either dry out and clear up or not. only time will tell. Since you have a thinbed pan you arent hurting anything(unless theres a pan leak not verified ) and best get used to it. The only other issue could be poor application of the wrong type sealer in that particular spot also not hurting anything. You chose a fickle material for a shower floor. and now reap the rewards. and you never clarified the flood testing process which is the only way to catch and correct a poor shower pan install before leaving a client with a wet mess like you may have......See MoreCarl Goodwill
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