Swapping roses for healthier, more disease resistant varieties.
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SoFL Rose z10
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Comments (39)I know this is an old thread but its been very good and useful so I thought I'd chime in. All the roses i recommend have been mentioned here but I live very close to you in Zone 10 Florida so I thought I'd let you know what has worked in my garden. I have over 50 roses and my best performer is by far Belinda's Dream (you probably have it by now, if not, get it!). Always in bloom all year round, doesn't mind heat/humidity or rain has perfectly formed blooms AND its fragrant. It has it all! One of my other good performers so far have been some Ausitns. My BEST bloomer is Huntington rose, but it does get black spot a bit. I don't spray her so i just prune her a bit after every other flush and she keeps bouncing back. Queen of Sweden has been excellent. Not as big a bloomer as Huntington but NO black spot at all. She does grow TALL though (huntington grows WIDE), So Far she has stayed very narrow and tall. Jubilee celebration has done well but she is too new to tell if she'll get through the rainy season without too much BS. Wollerton Old Hall, great fragrance great BS resistance but bloom color is not my cup of tea (kind of a tan/beige). Alnwick rose has done well too as well as Abraham Darby (tried and true). All my Austins are in planters though, none in the ground. As for HT roses my best performers have been Mr. Lincoln, Olympiad (very good), Gold Medal (also very good), Queen Elizabeth (kind of gangly but blooms alot), iceberg and brilliant pink iceberg are great but grow wide, not tall (they stay short though). Pretty much all my HT get some black spot in the rainy season but i just trim them come fall and they do well all the way until the following May. If you are looking for a more bushy rose try the new KORDES varieties. I have had ABSOLUTELY no black spot on Lion's Fairy Tale and Mandarin Ice, and I hear all the Fairy Tales are just as good as lions. I'm getting a few more this year from that series. OH also don't forget BUCKS roses. Superb! I have Polonaise and Golden Princess and both are great with BS (very very little) but by far the best one has been Quietness! She has NO BS and beautiful fragrant blooms. Very Fragrant! Some roses to stay away from would be Oklahoma, Double delight (every one raves about her but she's a BS magnet in my garden) Angle Face (same). Cherish (love her blooms but same BS issues). I grow most of my roses in planters so you may need to see if you can find any of these on Fortuniana RS. I highly recommend the Kordes ones though, they have really thrived own root with NO disease they stand out like champs. They almost don't even look like rose bushes they are so leafy. Duchess du Brabant has been another good one. She does get a little BS but she seems to shake it off quickly. I just also got Rosette DeLizzy and clotilde soupert but they are still babies so too soon to tell. Good luck and let me know what does well in your garden!...See MoreSuggestions for a disease resistant climbing rose?
Comments (6)A few points: Most of Puget Sound is USDA 8. 8 ft tall is not enough for a truly vigorous rose, there are many that would outgrow your space - watch that you do not plant a 20+ footer because you looked for "vigorous". For instance, 'Climbing Cecile Brunner' is prevalent and easy here, but I have seen that up a utility pole and above the uppermost set of wires. You could, of course prune to control size - if so inclined. There is a 'Climbing Cecile Brunner' near me that is sheared to form a tight arch over a door-sized gap used for access through a sheared laurel hedge. It manages to bloom well despite being almost a topiary. Other ones seen to be pretty much carefree here include 'Alberic Barbier', 'Aloha', "Darlow's Enigma" and 'Madame Alred Carriere'. All of these except the second will try to bulge out of the area you have available, have to be pruned back at some point. The third makes prickles like fish hooks during the early years, when twiggy but appears essentially impervious to disease in this region. The last may show some mildew during the right conditions for it during summer (dry roots + dewy nights). With consistent, effective watering you may see little of it....See MoreFragrant, no spray & disease resistant roses
Comments (96)Hi Msgirl: I love your honesty .. I looked up El Catala on HMF, and I broke out laughing when I saw 3' in height .. translate to a slow & wimpy rose. Heirloom Roses is notorious for small root & slow start. Now they raise the price to $27 per band !! If the root is big & solid, then it flowers sooner (roses from Weeks & star are grafted on Dr. Huey, see below). http://scvrs.homestead.com/Rootstock.html I got roses from Heirloom Roses as own-roots and their roots were like alfalfa-sprout, instead of big & long & woody like Dr. Huey. High Country Roses in Colorado sells BIGGER own-roots at $14 per band (they ship to Hawaii). I got Austin roses from them with blooms on !! About Dr. Huey rootstock: They are native to alkaline region, thus most healthy in alkaline clay. Dr. Huey itself tends to mildew, so high potassium helps. If your soil is acidic, then raise the pH with lime to above neutral. Lime will supply calcium besides raising soil pH. Decades ago my neighbor bought a bunch of grafted-roses-on-Dr.Huey, he planted in our rock-hard clay at 7.7, and they were blooming like mad & zero diseases. I was jealous since I had just moved from an ACIDIC clay region, and gave up on roses due to black spots. Since Dr. Huey is a woody-root, calcium should be supplied at 1/2 of potassium. Calcium is what makes plant tissue firm, thus more resistant to pests like thrips, mites, and aphids. When nitrogen is supplied via chemical, the quick burst of growth makes plant tissue softer, more susceptible to pests. I have been growing tomato for 30 years, and the only 2 years with big-fat tomato worms, plus blossom-end-rot were the years I used chemical fertilizer 10-10-10. Other years with ORGANIC slow-released nitrogen like manure, cocoa mulch, alfalfa .. no worms, no blossom-end-rot, since those ORGANIC sources supply low-nitrogen, decent potassium & calcium & trace elements....See MoreAre seedlings of disease proned roses ever healthier?
Comments (20)I have not been posting on this forum for a very long time since my wife has been fighting bone cancer for over 7 years. On April 7th 2008 she lost her battle with this terrible illness ! THIS IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION ! It's at all possible that two disease proned roses could produce very healthy seedlings. Here my answer : After 39 years of hybridizing I come to the conclusion that it is 99 percent luck and only one percent planning. Some years back I crossed two roses which never ever had mildew in years. I only spray my roses about 3 to 5 times a season. I had about 500 seedlings and mildew spread like wildfire. After throwing out every mildewed seedling I had only five (5) left. Read my article on my websites Article Page : "25 Years of Breeding for Disease Resistance" Link to my site below. George Mander Here is a link that might be useful: Roses of Excellence...See MoreSoFL Rose z10
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